Pro Mods being made in Mexico for 2013?!

[Rich#6]

[QUOTEI played a Jim Root Sig telecaster I thought was better than a Japanese Pro Mod. However the price was still too high for a MIM Fender.
][/QUOTE]Aren't those made in the usa. for those prices they better be. the cheaper non squier jim root fender I see costs $1200. Why would you compare a guitar that costs 50% then the promods and say this one is better and crap on the promods. how about comparing the fender standards with floyds to the promods? which is better then?

[jbird5150]

So Rich, I'm curious to hear your thoughts....what will these MIM versions do to the value of the MIJs? I've got a Ferrari Red that I was thinking about putting up for sale, but now I'm wondering if I should wait. Plus, that Trans Blue in the video has my mouth watering...

[Rich#6]

We'll have to wait and see. If they are better or just as good you won't get much for your mij one. If you are putting it up on ebay you never know. I didn't get even close to what I thought I would get for the 2 wild cards I've had and sold. To me you best bet is to sell it before the new ones come out while the market is low on inventory new or used.

[ginsambo]

I think Japanese and USA's will still remain distinct, with the USA's at the top of the pile. I know to the ignorant the new Jacksons killed the value of SL3's for example, but seriously?

If the MIM fret dots are anything to go by I wouldn't worry, you probably can't sell it as no one has any money, nothing to do with nobody wanting it. I reckon these will be great guitars but not as desirable in the sense that their homage to the vintage vibe and historic accuracy is way off. These Mim's are just different guitars with cheaper hardware.

Damn fret dots, I was waiting for reliable Fender to break a glut of these new MIM's so I could grab a few necks, I'II have to go Musikraft now.

[Steel City Psycho]

[QUOTEI played a Jim Root Sig telecaster I thought was better than a Japanese Pro Mod. However the price was still too high for a MIM Fender.
]

Aren't those made in the usa. for those prices they better be. the cheaper non squier jim root fender I see costs $1200. Why would you compare a guitar that costs 50% then the promods and say this one is better and crap on the promods. how about comparing the fender standards with floyds to the promods? which is better then?[/QUOTE]

The Telecasters are Mexican, the Stratocasters are USA.

And I can't compare a Fender Standard with a Floyd to a Japanese Pro-Mod because I never played a Fender Standard with a Floyd. But you want me to compare a $699 guitar to an $899 guitar, but don't want me to compare an $899 guitar to an $1199 guitar?

I didn't like the Japanese Pro-Mods for a lot of the same reasons as Ginsambo listed, including the color of the neck that he just mentioned. And I never said every Mexican guitar Fender makes is better than a Japanese Pro-Mod, my initial statement was agreeing with someone who already mentioned SOME Mexican Fenders are good guitars, to which I agreed SOME Mexican Fenders are great guitars.

If the MIM Charvels are near the quality of the higher end MIM Fenders I think I would like them as to where I did not like the Japanese Pro-Mods, but we'll just have to wait and see now won't we?

[Rich#6]

adding a qtrsawn neck and better pickups and a hardshell case can account for the price difference between the fender standards and themij promods. Comparing a high priced signature guitar to a production model is just stupid. standard models to standards models is the only way to make a good comparison.

[Steel City Psycho]

adding a qtrsawn neck and better pickups and a hardshell case can account for the price difference between the fender standards and themij promods. Comparing a high priced signature guitar to a production model is just stupid. standard models to standards models is the only way to make a good comparison.

Well,

I was comparing a production model (even though it is a Sig, it's still a production model) made in Mexico to a production model made in Japan...but I'll tell you what, we'll just wait until the Mexican Pro-Mods are available and then we'll compare Mexican Pro Mods to Japanese

[Rich#6]

kinda like comparing a demartini to a usa production model.

[Xoph]

...
Japanese Pro Mods on the other hand were expertly put together with a microscopic tolerance and I have never seen one even develop a laquer crack at the neck pocket, even with thick metallic base coats
...

My Japanese So-cal was already developing little lacquer cracks when new.

[toejam]

And Charvel still can't figure out how to put the truss rod adjustment at the headstock?!?

[Rich#6]

when did they start using lacquer?

[tinribs]

my model 4 had some sort of lacquer over the paint work, it was that that made it look off white in the end, as some of it cracked of and it was much brighter underneath. I remember stripping that model 3DR body, the lacquer or what ever they put over the paint was as hard as a diamond

[Rich#6]

first promod to model series very different. and It's some form of poly not laquer. big differences. ie poly might last in the cold, laquer on a guitar does not.

[ginsambo]

And Charvel still can't figure out how to put the truss rod adjustment at the headstock?!?

Impossible to adjust truss rods for me is part of the charm of a strathead Charvel, it harks back to their heritage.

...but seemingly completely wrongly spaced MIM 12th fret dots are NOT!

And a few laquer cracks, expecially around the neck pocket add to the charm in my opinion. Once I get one I play it to death, I'II never sell any of 'em and they are meant to be player guitars.

For the record the USA's were the worst for lifting paint, especially around the neck pocket, where the bodies shrunk around the neck and the rear trem cover which was ill fitting and often applied with a 10 tonne hydraulic press. I'II swear that in that department the Japanese Pro Mods I have are way better in terms of fit and finish, apart from the necks.

I am seriously going to have write a letter to FMIC about why their MIM fret dots are wrongly spaced. I will tell them that no one in the UK will buy them until the 12th fret dot spacings are corrected. I mean what are they like? What are they thinking?

[Neo Fender]

So what are the differences between Fender Stratocaster and Charvel Pro Mod bodies? I read once that Charvel bodies have a “sharper” radius on the body edge vs. Fender (I think Strats have either a 3/4” or 3/8” radius). I emailed Charvel with this question a couple of years ago and whomever replied thought I was inquiring about the neck radius, so I never got a decent answer.

Hopefully, they’ll keep the squared off fretboard corners.

As well as the fret dots, the body contours look a little off too. Like the wrong size roundover bit or too thick or something, which makes me wonder if the rear body tummy tuck contour is actually Fender or Charvel.