Is Fender destroying the Charvel brand?

[Grandturk]

And another thing...

Wayne wasn't even good at holding a steady job, was he? After he sold his business, he drifted around from company to company, never really finding a home... never really designing many desirable guitars until he started copying what Grover did and started Wayne Guitar. Right?

lol

That's because he got screwed!!!

[xenophobe]

Actually I'm willing to bet he got more free passes because of his name than he should of.

[d4rin]

I had a Japenese So-Cal, And now I own a Mexican sam dimas hardtail.

The fret work on the Japenese model was a bit better, But the neck pocket didn't fit the neck well at all. Seemed pretty loose when I took it off to adjust the truss rod.

The Mexican San Dimas fret work wasn't as god. They actually painted part of the neck pocket so now I have black paint on the neck (Why did they paint part of the neck pocket???)

Both guitars play the same, And the neck feels the same.

The Mexican model should have came with a case, That kinda pissed me off!

[jspeed]

As for using the Charvel name, recognition is important in business, Charvel was already recognized

Recognized?
For what?

Anyone reading the crap storm of negative comments from a couple of you guys, would think..... Only a total idiot would keep the Charvel family name on their company as a badge of pride.

Seriously, its funny hell to watch guys go bat crap crazy when Wayne’s name ever gets mentioned in any guitar forum.

[jspeed]

I had a Japenese So-Cal, And now I own a Mexican sam dimas hardtail.

The fret work on the Japenese model was a bit better, But the neck pocket didn't fit the neck well at all. Seemed pretty loose when I took it off to adjust the truss rod.

The Mexican San Dimas fret work wasn't as god. They actually painted part of the neck pocket so now I have black paint on the neck (Why did they paint part of the neck pocket???)

Both guitars play the same, And the neck feels the same.

The Mexican model should have came with a case, That kinda pissed me off!

Be careful saying "Mexican" too much, because there are some that totally hate Mexicans.
Humm, maybe it really is the Mexicans that are destroying the Charvel brand name after all. lol

[xenophobe]

Seriously, its funny hell to watch guys go bat crap crazy when Wayne’s name ever gets mentioned in any guitar forum.

The funny thing is that you seem to be the most wound up about it!

[shreddermon]

Did you know that butterflies smell through their legs and feet? So when that butterfly got a wiff of Wayne's taco-infused methane emissions, it was through his weird widdle buttertoes. Wayne claimed it was beef in his book, but it was really a chicken taco.

[lepard]

All Wayne ever did was sell parts and make a few hardware bits. Those bodies he sold in Zeno's advertisement were not even made at Charvel Manufacturing, they were made by Boogie Bodies. The pin router that had been recently procured right before Wayne left the company had never even been turned on until Grover got it going.

When Wayne left and started WC Guitars, he poorly screwed together Warmoth bodies and necks, didn't even take the time to sand off the Warmoth logos. They were really junky guitars.

As far as Fender and Charvel. The beginning of "doom" was the Chinese Desolation Series, which really aren't too bad for Chinese guitars. The closure of the Japanese plant was a really poor move. The Mexican guitars are hit and miss. The Chinese guitars, ala: EVH logo'd headstocks are just complete horrible junk. If you play one of those, take a box of bandaids for your fingers after the fret ends tear you up. Now what really pisses me off are non-USA copies of the DeMartini customs. Thanks for devaluing my killer USA Custom Fender............ dicks. I don't know if those are made in Mexico or China. If they are made in China, I'm sure they suck just like the EVH guitars.

[xenophobe]

Nobody here really gives a shit either way about Wayne. We don't worship him nor do we hate him. He's mostly just irrelevant to us.

We wouldn't even be talking about him if jspeed didn't mention him in the first place.

[VitaminG]

Nobody here really gives a shit either way about Wayne. We don't worship him nor do we hate him. He's mostly just irrelevant to us.

We wouldn't even be talking about him if jspeed didn't mention him in the first place.

true

jspeed sees a 'crap storm of negative comments'. All I see is a matter-of-fact discussion about Wayne's actual involvement in the company that eventually produced these guitars. Very little hate going on here. And jspeed hasn't refuted a single statement, just perceives hatred and will see it regardless of what anyone says

[xenophobe]

Well, if he had been honest in the first place, nobody would have had anything "negative" to say.

This was his first sentence about it:

The best Charvel’s were made by Wayne himself (He & Michael still build them too) everything else is really kinda a fake anyway, lol

Thomas Edison didn't actually invent the lightbulb? OMG my life has no more meaning!!!!

[Matt_B]

I've been doing some thinking about this and the things that hurt Charvel's name are:
1) Extremely long wait times for custom orders. No one should have to wait 2 years for a custom guitar unless it's being built by a one man shop. Seriously.
2) Charvel is currently not taking custom orders until further notice because they need to clear their backlog. Point 1 lead to point 2. I wanted to order a Custom shop Charvel for my 50th birthday (which is 2 years and 3 months away) and now that's in jeopardy. Seriously? I can get a custom Suhr in 6 months.

[shreddermon]

Lepard, if you're talking about the EVH striped series, those are MIM. Right alongside the Charvel ProMods. And so are the new import Dimartinis.

[Rich#6]

Closing the Japanese factory is huge for those that love the imports. The price points on all the shit they put out now, going back to the 90's thin neck shapes(I could buy an Ibanez if I wanted that crap), EMGs/active pickups in so many models, the bling on the desolation series, and the worst fret ends I have ever seen on ALL models are just some of the reasons I think the shitheads in charge of the 2 brands are killing them.

[Rich#6]

The wolfgangs were made for a short time in China after the Japan factory closed.