Earvana nuts?

[jim777]

Has anyone put an Earvana nut on one of their model series guitars? I have a maple board Model neck with a loose nut on it now, and I'm going to put it on a strat project. I was wondering if anyone had tried this?

Thanks,

jim

[Jacksonite]

Re: Earvana nuts?

i know all the esps now come with them stock but I really dont even know what they do...
I am keeping any eye on this thread....I wanna know

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: Earvana nuts?

Earvana nuts make sure you stay 'in tune'. Especially when playing open position chords and stuff. They claim it's especially for the first 5 frets.

Try tuning to E and then fret an F at fet 1. It'll read F# on your tuner, an Earvana nut will compensate and make it a true F, thus making it in tune.

[jim777]

Re: Earvana nuts?

Well, I ordered one because it was cheap and the guitar is already in the shop. I guess I'll let you all know! ;-)

jim

[noodlesatf]

Re: Earvana nuts?

I played a couple of LTDs with them at GC, and my opinions of LTD aside, they sounded really great. Almost as good as Buzz Feiten, but for a whole lot less. I'd like to hear from someone who used that nut, and the Buzz Feiten compensated intonation together.

[Subvamp]

Re: Earvana nuts?

The Earvana nuts make a slight difference, but they only do half the job. The whole Buzz Feiten system is based on moving the nut slightly closer to the first fret, which changes the scale length slightly, and then you set the intonation based on a "Feiten System" where some strings are intonated sharp and some flat. Normally when you set intonation, you hit the 12th fret harmonic, and then the 12th fret note fretted, and adjust the intonation saddle until those tones are the same, so basically you're just tuning each string to itself. The feiten system (with it's sharps and flats intonation) intonates each string to the other string. It's really a hell of a difference, and you'l never go back to playing a guitar without it once you try it. The Earvana nut does it to a lesser degree. I would try the Earvana, and if you like it, think about upgrading to the Feiten System. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
(If the above sounded like a Feiten sales picth, it's because I'm an authorized Buzz Feiten retrofitter [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

[MountainDog]

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I have a Les Paul Studio Custom Lite that sounded like crap when playing open chords, even though the intonation was spot on. All my 1st thru 5th frets played sharp as GoR said. I put the Ervana nut on and ta-da...fixed everything and now played like a normal guitar should.

Subvamp is very correct...the Earvana will bring an out of spec guitar back into normal spec. And he's correct about the Buzz system. I just picked up a Tipton custom guitar last Friday and took it straight to a gig. This is my first guitar with the Feiten method, and whoaaa...my clean sound chords never rang as true and distortion chords sounded better also. I brought 4 guitars to the gig and ended up just playing the Tipton all night as it sounded so good.

Hey Subvamp...I think I screwed up...I was checking intonation on the Tipton (w/Feiten system)...but I didn't know he uses sharp/flat intonation and I moved a couple saddles thinking it should intonate the old-school way. Can you tell me how each string should be (using a normal tuner) so I can move it back to correct?? (I think I moved G, B, and little E slightly) Any help you can offer would be appreciated!

[SeventhSon]

Re: Earvana nuts?

http://www.strobostomp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41

[LexLuthier]

Re: Earvana nuts?

My brother has one on his Hamer Korina Artist, it seems to play in tune pretty good.

My bud is an authorized Feiten retrofitter, so he and I did one of my guitars on his day off, and it worked nice. Unfortunately, I don't have the right tuner so I don't get the total benefit.

[Subvamp]

Re: Earvana nuts?

MoutainDog: That link that SeventhSon posted is the correct offsets to use for intonating the Buzz system. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Lex: You don't necessarily have to TUNE to the Feiten specs after it's been set up that way, you mainly just have to intonate with it. I have the feiten system on my personal guitars, but I tune by ear and I still get the full effect of being totally in tune all over the neck.

[noodlesatf]

Re: Earvana nuts?

Considering that the offset is in cents (2 at the most "off"), having a Buzz Feiten compatible tuner is absolutely useless. Standard error on these things tend to be +/- 3 cents. Having the correct offsets for tuning is really only useful if you have a strobe tuner.

[MountainDog]

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SeventhSon/Subvamp: thanks much for the link on the tuning! That will make the guitar sound even better (FYI, last Friday I just used my normal Sabine tuner (without any offsets) on my Buzz equiped guitar and it still sounded better than a 'regular' guitar!)

[LexLuthier]

Re: Earvana nuts?

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MoutainDog: That link that SeventhSon posted is the correct offsets to use for intonating the Buzz system. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Lex: You don't necessarily have to TUNE to the Feiten specs after it's been set up that way, you mainly just have to intonate with it. I have the feiten system on my personal guitars, but I tune by ear and I still get the full effect of being totally in tune all over the neck.

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I was under the impression to get the most out of the system, you needed to use the correct tuner. I did set the intonation offets when we did the conversion.