model series nut size?

[Dreamland_Rebel]

i've got 2 model 3's and was wondering if they have the R3 or R4 nut size?

[mm2002]

Re: model series nut size?

R-3 - All of the model series had a 1 11/16" nut to the best of my knowledge. I believe the R-4 is 1 3/4".

[mulder1966]

Re: model series nut size?

R3 and R4 are both 1 11/16". The R4 just has a wider string spacing. R5 is 1 3/4", I think [img]graemlins/fart.gif[/img] (I had to fart) [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[mm2002]

Re: model series nut size?

Yep he is correct about the r4. I wasn't thinking. Damn what's that smell?? [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img]
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[Genebaby]

Re: model series nut size?

There are some Model guitars with R2 nuts on them, be careful!!

[mm2002]

Re: model series nut size?

Which models had R2s? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd just like to know.

[Genebaby]

Re: model series nut size?

I checked on my Model 88 and it is right to go with a R2 nut. There is an R2 nut on my Spectrum as well, while not of the Model series technically, it's the same thing. Most Model guitars came with the Kahler style nut so just to be sure, put an R2 or R3 over it and see what fits.

That being said, my 92 Rhoads Pro has an R3, but my 750XL came stock with an R4 and a Charvel Fusion Deluxe I saw recently also had an R4 on it standard. Seems they used R3 and R4 but I don't know how they chose it.

[charvel750]

Re: model series nut size?

That's weird, bro! Every C/J I've owned has had an R3 nut. How is it that your Model 88 has an R2? Weren't those guitars all with the behind the nut JT-6 lock? And, the five Charvel 750's I've owned were all R3 too...

[straycat]

Re: model series nut size?

Every jackson I've had with a real floyd has had an R3 nut.All model series have had the behind the nut kahler type(which works just fine)

[mm2002]

Re: model series nut size?

All the model series I've seen were 1 11/16" (R3) but they didn't all have the "behind the nut lock". Check this out, it was original on my model 3DR. I've never seen another one like it. It is stamped Kahler too, and uses a standard floyd route. I think it is a fairly rare neck (reverse headstock, import logo, floyd nut route)! BTW, the guitar has a JT6.

[charvel750]

Re: model series nut size?

mm, that Kahler nut was not really rare. It was also used on the LTD '88 USA Jackson strat among others. It's been seen on Spectrums and many 1989/1990 borderline Charvels.

[Dreamland_Rebel]

Re: model series nut size?

it has been my understanding that the R3 is meant for bound 1 11/16, while the R4 is for unbound 1 11/16 necks. but that doesn't mean that they didnt use R3 on there. R3 have the same string spacing that the R2 has. R4 is slightly wider, so i'm not sure which one they used and i don't have a spare nut to compare with.
oh well, i'll figure it out.
i guess i'll have to just copare the actual plastic nut instead of the floyd/kahler nut.

[Genebaby]

Re: model series nut size?

My friends Model 6 has that nut on it too, the Kahler Floyd type one. His is actually an 89 so is in the timeframe of transition.

I'm pretty sure you can use R3 and R4 on whichever neck you like as the nut itself is the same width, with different spacing inside. My bound 750XL has R4 and my bound Rhoads has an R3. But these are old school guitars. Pretty much everything with a Floyd these days is R3.

[mm2002]

Re: model series nut size?

Originally posted by charvel750:
mm, that Kahler nut was not really rare. It was also used on the LTD '88 USA Jackson strat among others. It's been seen on Spectrums and many 1989/1990 borderline Charvels.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I won't argue that Joe, but I've never seen another "model series" guitar with that nut and an ofr nut route. Funny thing is that the necks on those guitars are actually longer than the ones with the Kahler "behind the nut" lock, and this 3DR will not fit in a standard 3DR case. (gray chainsaw type). Tekky has one of my 3DRs and the OHSC that came with it, and trust me...this guitar will not fit in that case! I've tried it. Did they make a different case for these?? I just think it's kinda wierd.

[mm2002]

Re: model series nut size?

And just to back up that theory, here's a pic of both 3DR necks trying to fit in the same case. Trust me, the bodies of both guitars were pressed firmly toward the rear of the case in both of these pics. Now, wassup with that?