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[Marko Paananen]

Hi!

All right, I found one very interesting Charvel on sale, could you please give me some information about it? Looks a little bit like Fender SRV model.

You can find a picture of it here:
http://www.ostol.osakk.fi/~mapaanan/charvel/charvel.htm

Two other pictures are of model 3A which is also on sale. Don't have money for both, propably I have to choose one, but which one? [img]graemlins/help.gif[/img]

[Evolver]

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A Strat headstock with a small toothpaste logo...very suspicious. Ask them for a serial # maybe?

[Marko Paananen]

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Haven't seen this kind of guitar ever before, and for my eyes it looks brilliant! Guy who's selling it told me that it's from early 90's and has active electronics, model should be Charvel St.Custom or something like that. Who knows? Tekky? HotRodder?

[2Loud2Old]

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I'm not 100 percent sure..

But..

I think it MAY be a German market Charvel.

During the 90ies.. I believe a small run of strat-head Charvels were produced for the German market.

The logo would be correct for the time frame as far as I know.

I don't know the details, but I remember someone here was speaking about it once.

If it is a German market Charvel, then I'd go for it. The Model 3 is pretty common, "official" Strat-heads are not.

Personaly, I think it's real

[Marko Paananen]

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I recall those German market Charvels had Floyd Rose and no pickguard... Could this one possibly be San Dimas Traditional from -94 or thereabouts?

[2Loud2Old]

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I don't think so, as Charvel had to stop using Strat-heads during the 80's.

The only Charvel strat heads after 84 that I know about were the limited German ones. (Fender had a special agreement for Germany)

Perhaps there was a special arrangement for a Japan market made Strat-head

Hopefully someone will have the deffinative answer.

I'd still grab it myself.

[Marko Paananen]

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Is this same kind of guitar:

http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Va002.htm

If so, then it propably is Charvel St Custom, like I was told. Any info appreciated! I couldn't find anything else from the net.

I'm quite sure someone knows how much did it retail 15 years ago... also what do you think about its value today. Condition: mint! Sorry, I hate these "how much is this worth"-questions but I'm not doin' very good money-wise right now, actually I haven't done ever since mid eighties when I started playing in a band...

And I have bad english also...

[Marko Paananen]

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It looks like I'm replying myself all the time - great forum, isn't it, you can answer for yourself, thank you, but how about this:

http://home.tiscali.se/shellman/Bild002.jpg

Isn't this same guitar except that awful headstock? So far the ugliest thing I have ever seen was Bill Ward on the cover of Sabotage but this is as horrible...

Maybe there were St Customs with different necks then, I'll have to wait until you americans wake up, here in Finland it's 2:30 p.m. Good morning!

[VitaminG]

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Originally posted by -Marko-:
It looks like I'm replying myself all the time - great forum, isn't it, you can answer for yourself, thank you...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This isn't a chat room. There isn't always someone here who can immediately answer your questions. Try exercising a little patience.

Maybe there were St Customs with different necks then

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you may be on to something there. In the US, the CX series were only available with that eagle-beak headstock in the second link you provided. But a local shop here in Australia recently had an old strat head CX291.

So, given that you've found several examples of what looks to be basically the same guitar (save for the different headstocks) then I think you might be right in assuming that the first guitar is an ST Custom. A better shot of the headstock should answer that. There appears to be a model name after the Charvel logo.

[Marko Paananen]

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Sorry, I didn't want to hurt anyone when I was talking about replying my own messages, it was ment more like an apologize coz I found some info here and some info there, and I posted them right away. And like I already said, I have bad english, maybe I chose wrong words. I'm using finnish-english dictionary all the time... but that's all folks, I step aside and wait if I get some more feedback.

[Evolver]

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If they made Strat heads for the foreign markets during that time period, then everything makes sense...

I think the rarity of it would be the main attraction, but even then, I don't think it's a high-dollar item. The older Model series are probably better guitars, especially if that one was made in the same factory as the later Charvel/Charvettes that I remember from that time. BUT, you'd have something unique...

[mudkicker]

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Marko I have seen a few of those strat head charvels. They pop up ebay once in a while from. They seemed to have been made only for the european and australian market. Between the two guitars you are looking at the older model 3a has better components and better craftmanship than the ST/CX series. Also the 3a would be easier to resale.

[Tekky]

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The first CX Charvels had stratheads. I believe one of our Austrailian JCFrs posted one. They shipped them to europe where the Fender headstock was still legal. However the picture that you're showing doesn't necessarily jive with the CX series. On the headstock, I think I can make out where they printed the CX### name. But the CX models with the standard tremolo that was basically the same as the Model 1 tremolo and they never came in anything but solid colors.

On the other hand the ST does have that type of standard tremolo and it does come in the tobacco sunburst paint scheme. But the headstocks were that ugly rounded off triangle.

My thoughts... It's a mutt. CX model neck and ST body.

[Marko Paananen]

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What actually is cx Charvel?

[Tekky]

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Import Charvels, Japanese origin..

MODEL
Charvel CX192
Charvel CX290
Charvel CX291
Charvel CX292
Charvel CX390
Charvel CX391
Charvel CX392
Charvel CX490
Charvel CX492
Charvel CX592
Charvel CX692