eyeballing a Model 6....

[ZeNo]

i saw this Charvel model 6 in a local guitarshop the other day
binding on neck and headstock, neckthru etc..
played and sounded like a dream...
mint condition
except one thing...the bridge has been replaced by a Wilkinson bridge (see the pic) the job looks very professionally done, the old peg-holes are nicely finished and the new bridge looks and feels good, no locknut though, but locking tuners...
now i wonder...why no locknut? dont Model 6es have floyds and lockingnuts? it doesnt look like anything was removed from the nut...

theyre asking 750 euros including the OHSC.. keep in mind this in The Netherlands and Charvel model 6's are quite rare here...
is that a reasonable price?

heres a pic

[wulfe13]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

Damn, if it weren't for that bridge and the missing lock nut, I'd say jump on it.
Model 6 came with a Kahler tremelo in 1986 and then came with one of the licensed floyds in 87 and 88. Not sure which though.

[Budman68]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

If it feels nice to you, great. BUT my biggest worry would be the strings popping out of the nut when diving on the bar. Now if you don't plan on doing alot of really deep "diving" then maybe it's a goog deal? (I don't know the value of Model 6's in your area).

Dave->

[Grandturk]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

Well the Wilkenson trem is much more like a vintage trem than a floyd or kahler, which means its not meant for diving so far as to pop the strings out, but realistically, this could happen on these models even with the locking nut as it is placed behind the actual nut.

As far as the original lock nut, it could have been easily removed and the holes plugged and painted over - just 4 little screw holes - a lot less work than the plugs from the floyd posts.

As far as 750 euros (about 750 US, right?) - these generally go for at the most US $600 in immaculate condition, so that price is definately high. In the US, I wouldn't pay more than $250 for it.

[Jonzkij]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

I payed about 650 euros (6000 Sek - We don´t have Euro in sweden [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] )for a white model 6 in dead mint condition.
All other Model 5-6:s i´ve seen up for sale has been pretty abused, and not that cheap either.
The only issue with it is that it was once stolen, and the serial has been removed.
Furthermore the Kahler nut has been replaced with a Floyd, but it´s a proffessional work and it stays in tune forever!
I think you should try to negotiate the price down to 600 - 650 Euros.
If it is in mint condition, that is.
Good luck!

//Jonzkij

[RacerX]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

Originally posted by wulfe13:
and then came with one of the licensed floyds in 87 and 88. Not sure which though.

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[RacerX]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

Originally posted by Grandturk:
As far as 750 euros (about 750 US, right?) -
definately high.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No way. The dollar is weak now. 750E = $887 US.

And it's definitely [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

[ZeNo]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

thanks for all the replies [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
well i'm not a dive bomb person so i wont miss the Floyd too much...
i tried talking it down a bit but there was no way that was possible [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]
the thing is....i really like the guitar and i havent seen a model 6 for sale in ages...
do you guys think the guitar (with the changed bridge) is worth the money or not?

[RacerX]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

Well, you're in Holland, right? $887 seems really high for a modded 6. Why not look for a US or Jap Soloist on eBay or from a US dealer?
Hell, I got a 2001 USA SL2H I'll sell ya for $887! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[model1]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

even on the european market you can get a better offer
i paid 320€ in munich germany [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
for a 86` m6 same colour as yours
but with all original kahler and so on
the only thing is she has some wear:
some smaller surface dings, 3 small but deep dings that go to the wood
2 screwholes on the head because a schaller nut was mounted for a time (and a modded tussrodcover therefor)
not the best frets anymore but they´re just ok
and someone put out the active circuit(JE1200 i think)
so i think you can get a good M6 for 400-500€ if you look hard and are patient

[lerxstcat]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

The Model 6s with Kahler locknut won't pop out of the actual nut because the string is still clamped close enoough to the nut that it doesn't have enough play on that end to floploose.

The string CAN pop out at the bridge though, if you don't know that you have to set the ball end on end like a wheel, then bend the string to conform to the cam surface. Doing this keeps the string from popping our, and keeps the edges of the stringholder from cutting the ball end string wrap. It takes no longer than snipping and securing the string with a Floyd.

That guitar, with no locking clamp, might pop strings out since the angled headstock is really meant for a locking nut if you have trem. That guitar is probably worth half what it'd be worth if stock,so you'd never get your money back if you had to sell it. If you go back armed with this info and they change their minds and knock the price down a LOT, maybe consider it. I'd wait; you could buy one on US Ebay and even with
$200-$300 overseas shipping and import duties based on the US price you'd be way ahead. These guitars are pretty uniform about great playability, so if it's intact I don't see that as a issue for you.

Even in Europe, I wouldn't go over $450 US for that guitar as it is. The choice is yours, that's JMO.

[MetalMedal II]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

As a reference, the last Model 6 on Ebay went for $336 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBWA%3AIT&rd=1

Granted, these are cheaper to get in the US. But, if you decided to buy that one at their price, because of the mods done to it, you'd be hard pressed to get your money back if you decided to sell it.

[guitar geek]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

those guitars are relatively rare in Europe, so the prizes are way to high for US standards. It keeps frustrating me that it is such a huge difference, the prizes at the other side of the pond and here. So if you see a mod 6 for something like 500 euro's, I suggest you take it.

Harrald

[ZeNo]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

ok thanks....looks like ive got to think hard and look around...

[ZeNo]

Re: eyeballing a Model 6....

i know....but for the last 2 years i havent seen a model 6 come by in the normal used sites (dutch ebay clones) only a few model 4s, which had prices about 400/450 euros...

this model 6 is from a guitarshop btw...