Model 4 question

[bombtek]

What locking nut (exact model if you know it please) was used on the 1986 Model 4?

[Rich#6]

Kahler behind the nut lock.

[bombtek]

LOL ....ok, that was a given man. Thanks anyways, but what I was looking for the exact model number of the part (if there even is one). I think that Kahler behind the nut lock might be just a little too general of a description. Thanks again anyways.

[nhspike]

Kahler behind the nut lock, model: Kahler behind the nut lock

They are on e-bay all the time... and unless you want to pay 3X, that's where you'll buy it anyhow
hehe

[dg]

I agree with Rich & Spike. IIRC, it was pretty much just the one standard kind, unless you ordered the flip-lock. As far as the part number, they call it the 5513 Std. Stringlock here:

http://www.kahlerparts.com/Other_Pages/Stringlocks.htm

[bombtek]

OK. Another question then. Would a Floyd R3 Nut work in its stead?

[dg]

Yes, but to install it correctly, a shelf will have to be made for it to rest on. Here's a pic of a Charvel neck (originally v-trem) that's been modified for the floyd nut:

[bombtek]

Cool! ok one more question then. Is it absolutely mandatory that the original nut be scrapped when donig the Floyd R3 locknut mod?

[dg]

Yes. It has to take the place of the original nut. Not sure if this is what you were getting at, but were you thinking about using one as a behind-the-nut stringlock?

[nhspike]

I've seen that done (using behind the nut).
Looks Ghey.

[Rich#6]

Looks Ghey

And will probably work worse then the kahler.

LOL ....ok, that was a given man. Thanks anyways, but what I was looking for the exact model number of the part (if there even is one). I think that Kahler behind the nut lock might be just a little too general of a description. Thanks again anyways.

Wasn't trying to be a smart ass.

[bombtek]

Yes. It has to take the place of the original nut. Not sure if this is what you were getting at, but were you thinking about using one as a behind-the-nut stringlock?

Yeah, that was/is my plan if it is possible cuz I have two R3 nuts (LOL I said I have 2 nutz) that I don't have a use for right now and was looking to replace/use one of them as a behind the nut ......err......nut. If you can follow what I'm trying to do.

Basically use the R3 nut as a direct replacement for the Kahler behind the nut stringlock.......Follow me?

[bombtek]

And will probably work worse then the kahler.
Wasn't trying to be a smart ass.

I know you weren't.......I was just looking for a more detailed bit of information on the nut .....that's all.