japan quake and tsunami effecting prodction of guitars?

[QuantumRider]

Hey Gary,

Did the cell phone network get overloaded when the flood hit you guys down under a few months ago?

Every time we have a large earthquake, it becomes impossible for calls/SMS to go through because everyone tries to make calls at the same time.

I raced from evacuation center to evacuation center in my town for a couple of hours before I found my wife and daughter.

Administrator-

The Chushin Gakki factory is far enough from the big quake and the tsunamis, so I'm assuming that business is going on as usual there, other than perhaps some difficulties being encountered in materials/supplies being delivered.

That being said, VitaminG prefaced his statement with "IF I lived in an area that was affected by an earthquake..." So he was talking in a general sense of what his priorities would be in case of natural disaster.

Ron,

I'm surprised that you haven't pointed out the grammatical error in the thread title. You're slacking!

[VitaminG]

You are making alot of assumptions as to the Jackson factory having a radiation problem. Or that there is a risk working in the Jackson factory in Japan. I guess Japan might as well shut down as an economy for a while. Sure this is an immediate problem, but it can also turn into a long term problem as well. Better to get back on your feet as fast as you can.

"Hey honey, I'm home. My business washed out to sea. No work. I don't know how I'm going to feed our family. I sure wish I was able to make widgets so I could feed you. But I'm sure VitaminG is okay that I'm not and we are starving."

so the guy gets a job sweeping floors at the local school or something to get buy.

I made no assumptions about the risk of radiation at the Jackson plant. I don't even know if it was under threat from tsunami. My only point is that the value of human life is greater than the rest of the world's need for another guitar. IF it is safe for people to return to work or their homes, then by all means they should as soon as possible.

But this goes beyond one worker's return to work at their company. And it's not all about Jackson guitars. This has been a disaster on a massive scale. Workers all over Japan will have to face these issues. Not all of them will have the benefit of a home or employment safely away from the impacts of what happened. The psyche of the Japanese people at large will be wounded by this and it will take time for them to recovery psychologically.

It's interesting, your "swept out to sea" analogy. I live in South East Queensland. You may have seen footage of the floods that decimated the place a couple of months back. The company I work for shut down its Brisbane operations for some time, to allow staff time to get home to their families & to secure their properties. We were told that under no circumstances were we to return to work until given the all clear. The company put the value of the lives of its people above making profits. Of course, send your staff back to work before it's safe and you may not have any people left by the time it is safe.

As devastating to our economy as the flood was, it isn't a speck compared to the damage seen in Japan. Our risk at going back to work isn't nearly the same either. Buildings were destroyed, infrastructure damaged, but no risk of fallout here. Once the waters subsided, streets cleaned of garbage, toxins & filth, and buildings given the all clear for entry (or not), we got back to our lives as best we could.

Hey Gary,

Did the cell phone network get overloaded when the flood hit you guys down under a few months ago?

Every time we have a large earthquake, it becomes impossible for calls/SMS to go through because everyone tries to make call at the same time.

I raced from evacuation center to evacuation center in my town for a couple of hours before I found my wife and daughter.

Ace, there was some network overload. Our circumstances are very different to yours though - the initial flash flood caused a flurry of activity as people from all over tried to find out about loved ones in the Toowoomba & Lockyer Valley areas, contact emergency services, etc. The subsequent flooding of Ipswich & Brisbane was a slow inundation so people were better prepared & had largely evacuated at-risk areas, so they knew where their friends and family were. Less panic, fewer calls for help & less network congestion. We were affected by communications towers and power stations & substations being taken out or pre-emptively turned off.

[RacerX]

Ron,

I'm surprised that you haven't pointed out the grammatical error in the thread title. You're slacking!

That ain't my job!





Besides, there were too many to bother with. Meh.

[Administrator]

so the guy gets a job sweeping floors at the local school or something to get buy.

I made no assumptions about the risk of radiation at the Jackson plant. I don't even know if it was under threat from tsunami. My only point is that the value of human life is greater than the rest of the world's need for another guitar. IF it is safe for people to return to work or their homes, then by all means they should as soon as possible.

But this goes beyond one worker's return to work at their company. And it's not all about Jackson guitars. This has been a disaster on a massive scale. Workers all over Japan will have to face these issues. Not all of them will have the benefit of a home or employment safely away from the impacts of what happened. The psyche of the Japanese people at large will be wounded by this and it will take time for them to recovery psychologically.

You must forget Japan is a small island. So, there may not be enough other jobs for affected workers to go to. You assume all the affected people can easily find work elsewhere. And I don't think it would be easy relocating either. Especially since they probably wouldn't have transportation.

I just don't agree with your assumption with regards that people will be dying of radiation poisoning if they went back to work. You don't know the situation with the jobs in Japan or the Jackson guitar factory in Japan. So, why make a post assuming the jobs there have high levels of radiation? For all you know, the Jackson plant might have never shut down. If there was fact that the Jackson factory in Japan has high levels of radiation. Then I could see someone making of point that it is better to not make guitars there right now than risk their health. But those facts are unknown, so there is no value in assuming and creating unnecessary fear.

[VitaminG]

You must forget Japan is a small island. So, there may not be enough other jobs for affected workers to go to. You assume all the affected people can easily find work elsewhere. And I don't think it would be easy relocating either. Especially since they probably wouldn't have transportation.

I just don't agree with your assumption with regards that people will be dying of radiation poisoning if they went back to work. You don't know the situation with the jobs in Japan or the Jackson guitar factory in Japan. So, why make a post assuming the jobs there have high levels of radiation? For all you know, the Jackson plant might have never shut down. If there was fact that the Jackson factory in Japan has high levels of radiation. Then I could see someone making of point that it is better to not make guitars there right now than risk their health. But those facts are unknown, so there is no value in assuming and creating unnecessary fear.

you are making a lot of assumptions about my assumptions.

I never said that workers at the Jackson plant were at any risk of any kind, radiation or otherwise. I never said that workers would die of radiation poisoning if they went back to work. My fictitious scenario concerned a guy making widgets. Where they make widgets and whether the widget factory is under any risk, I don't know. I have not assumed that it would be easy to find another job. If 100 people that work at your business now have no work to go to, that will be 100 more people also looking for work locally to support their families.

I have made no definitive statements of fact in any of my posts. You assume that I mean this or I mean that. You seem unable to grasp the concept that I am trying to convey. Not all business has shut down in Japan. Many that initially stopped work may be recommencing work as we speak. But many are in dangerous proximity to nuclear power plants in crisis. Many workers will be prevented from returning to work because of the tsunami damage to buildings and the risk that their place of employment will collapse on their heads. Should workers & employers overlook these risks to human life for the sake of getting people back to work quicker, for the good of the economy & their businesses?

You are clearly hung up on getting those Jackson workers back to making guitars. I'm not talking about just Jackson workers. You have jumped to conclusions about what I have apparently assumed about conditions at the Jackson plant, but have provided no evidence or factual information supporting your assertion that they should get back to work ASAP.

You are correct, there may not be other jobs for affected workers to go to in their area and they may not be able to travel. In which case, will they be able to work at their regular place of business?

I have paid you the courtesy of reading each of your posts and responding to as many points made as I could. It is a shame that you only seem able to grasp one or two points made in mine, and imagine my "assumptions" to fill in the gaps in your argument.

[Administrator]

you are making a lot of assumptions about my assumptions.

I never said that workers at the Jackson plant were at any risk of any kind, radiation or otherwise. I never said that workers would die of radiation poisoning if they went back to work. My fictitious scenario concerned a guy making widgets. Where they make widgets and whether the widget factory is under any risk, I don't know. I have not assumed that it would be easy to find another job. If 100 people that work at your business now have no work to go to, that will be 100 more people also looking for work locally to support their families.

I have made no definitive statements of fact in any of my posts. You assume that I mean this or I mean that. You seem unable to grasp the concept that I am trying to convey. Not all business has shut down in Japan. Many that initially stopped work may be recommencing work as we speak. But many are in dangerous proximity to nuclear power plants in crisis. Many workers will be prevented from returning to work because of the tsunami damage to buildings and the risk that their place of employment will collapse on their heads. Should workers & employers overlook these risks to human life for the sake of getting people back to work quicker, for the good of the economy & their businesses?

You are clearly hung up on getting those Jackson workers back to making guitars. I'm not talking about just Jackson workers. You have jumped to conclusions about what I have apparently assumed about conditions at the Jackson plant, but have provided no evidence or factual information supporting your assertion that they should get back to work ASAP.

You are correct, there may not be other jobs for affected workers to go to in their area and they may not be able to travel. In which case, will they be able to work at their regular place of business?

I have paid you the courtesy of reading each of your posts and responding to as many points made as I could. It is a shame that you only seem able to grasp one or two points made in mine, and imagine my "assumptions" to fill in the gaps in your argument.

I didn't say anything about Jackson workers going back to work or that they need to go back to work ASAP. As I don't even know if the Jackson factory is running or not. What I said is you don't know the conditions of the Jackson factory to know whether or not they should be making guitars at this time. Or whether there is any harm being done to workers making guitars. You talk about not risking life to make a guitar, and that people’s lives are more important than making guitars in a thread about the production of guitars in the Jackson factory. Then you talk about someone hypothetically dying of radiation poisoning for making a product in Japan for an overseas company. But I haven't heard of any problems at the Jackson factory to be able to say one way or the other if they should or shouldn't be making guitars at this time. Someone in Japan may read your post and think there is a safety concern or radiation problem with regards to the Jackson factory. The way I look at it is the more places in Japan that are up and running, then the less impact the earthquake has had on lives over there.

[QuantumRider]

Someone in Japan may read your post and think there is a safety concern or radiation problem with regards to the Jackson factory.

Dude, someone in Japan has already posted in this thread with regard to the safety concerns at the Chushin Gakki factory.

The Chushin Gakki factory is far enough from the big quake and the tsunamis, so I'm assuming that business is going on as usual there, other than perhaps some difficulties being encountered in materials/supplies being delivered.

The airborne radiation levels in my town (as monitored in the city immediately south of us) are pretty much back to background levels after it stopped raining a couple of days ago, and Nagano is another 278km further south from the power plant than where I live, so I'm pretty sure that there's no radiation risk there.

[tonemonster]

this thread has gone to eleven.

[Musician78]

Lol, no crap....

[Administrator]

Dude, someone in Japan has already posted in this thread with regard to the safety concerns at the Chushin Gakki factory.

Someone just posted where they heard the location of the plant was. They didn't say anything if it was safe or not at the factory. So, we still don't know at this time.

[Twitch]

Someone just posted where they heard the location of the plant was. They didn't say anything if it was safe or not at the factory. So, we still don't know at this time.

Dude! The guy you quoted is from Japan. I think he would know, go futter up a thread somewhere else.

[Administrator]

Dude! The guy you quoted is from Japan. I think he would know, go futter up a thread somewhere else.

Instead of telling me what you think he knows. Go ask him if the Jackson plant is safe or not. Or if it is even running. He hasn't posted that yet.

[QuantumRider]

Instead of telling me what you think he knows. Go ask him if the Jackson plant is safe or not. Or if it is even running. He hasn't posted that yet.

As far as whether the Jackson plant is safe, here is the site that I've been checking airborne radiation levels at:

http://www.kankyo-hoshano.go.jp/real-data/servlet/area_in?areacode=1

The monitoring stations on the site are about 6 miles south from my town. I live 200km south from the failed power plant, and like I posted before, Chushin Gakki is another 278km south from my town, inland, and in the mountains. So although I am not a nuclear engineer, I would venture to say that there is very little risk of radiation contamination there.

Besides, I just called Chushin Gakki, and the lady who answered the phone said that the factory is running.

[Administrator]

As far as whether the Jackson plant is safe, here is the site that I've been checking airborne radiation levels at:

http://www.kankyo-hoshano.go.jp/real-data/servlet/area_in?areacode=1

The monitoring stations on the site are about 6 miles south from my town. I live 200km south from the failed power plant, and like I posted before, Chushin Gakki is another 278km south from my town, inland, and in the mountains. So although I am not a nuclear engineer, I would venture to say that there is very little risk of radiation contamination there.

Besides, I just called Chushin Gakki, and the lady who answered the phone said that the factory is running.

Thanks. That should answer the OP's question.

[jackson1]

A(QR), you are being very patient in this thread and classy as always, especially considering your current situation.

Besides, I just called Chushin Gakki, and the lady who answered the phone said that the factory is running.

Dang, I just knew it! A lady is running the factory!