floyd comparison

[doradoradora]

hey man just wanna ask, how do real gotoh/schaller tremolo (ofr is not in the mix since its way too expensive) compare to the stock takeuchi jackson branded licensed floyd low profile trem?? are they worth the almost 200$?? if so, I’m gonna need comfirmation on how they fit on a ‘08 dk2. Thanks guys.

[pianoguyy]

Assuming you mean the JT-580LP

If it is damaged beyond repair, sure, go ahead and replace it.
Otherwise, why spend the money?

[Razor]

I'm with pianoguyy Should be a JT580LP. If there's nothing wrong with it then why replace it. It's a solid tremolo. Honestly if you just want to replace the trem then hold out for an Original Floyd as clean used ones come up for sale well under 200 bucks fairly often. Take note that the string lock screws could stick out beyond the pull up route on a DK2.

[doradoradora]

Oh so locking trems are just tiring overall? lol this is my first locking trem guitar

[Mechayoshi]

Oh so locking trems are just tiring overall? lol this is my first locking trem guitar

Personally I think not and all of my guitars are. I suppose if this is your only one and you want to change the tuning frequently, maybe. (But you can do dive only setups to help) J-580s work well until parts strip out. If you replace later, the gotoh trem will need the locking bolts swapped for shorter ones too in my experience.

[john.w.lawson]

One guitar Just take time and set your stuff up... and play

[Cutty1998]

I love Real Floyd rose , /Schallers ,Jackson/Charvel's knock off- Trems . But I need to have a hard tail guitar handy always as I like to play in too many tunings ,as do most Guitarists and I suck at setting those things up ! Even changing the strings on a floating trem guitar is a nightmare and usually ends with a trip to my local mom&Pop git shop for help. Right now I have 2 Jacksons. 1 is a 1993 MIJ Soloist XL professional with the MIG Schaller ,& a (Not sure of year) MIJ Dinky DK2M with a Jackson 580 and so far I have Had no problems with either trem. However you can feel the softness of the 580 compared to the rock solid feel of the Schaller .The only other difference I notice is the Schaller's trem bar will stay locked in any position I want it in if tightened fully , but the 580 bar just hangs where it wants even tightened all the way .Makes it harder to slap & do quick wobbles while playing . I had a 1985-86' San Dimas Charvel with a Kahler deluxe trem on it and that was a dream to change tunings or strings & and almost never broke a string either but those are really expensive now ($300 and higher). and totally different from a full floater .

[triminmotion]

There are compatibility / dimensions / offset / intonation considerations when replacing the JT580LP with various other tremolos. If you search here, there are threads that go into a lot of detail on the topic.

In my case, the closest thing to a drop in replacement was the OFR, so I went with that. Not completely drop-in because the mounting studs were thicker, but my body is basswood so it took to bashing them in well. I can divebomb, do pull ups til I fret out, leave it in the corner untouched for a month, and it’s still in tune….

[doradoradora]

alright guys thanks for the info. BTW I am actually intrigued by kahlers. Seems to be better than floyd in every aspect but why is it also seemed to be hated?

[pianoguyy]

I don't think we hate Kahler. But there are models that we hate.

[Razor]

Oh so locking trems are just tiring overall? lol this is my first locking trem guitar

I have 12 guitars. 11 have some version of a Floyd double locker. There's a reason. Once you learn to set one up properly they're gravy. Intimidating at first, but it's really just a balance between the strings and the springs. Once that clicks it's pretty damn easy to set one up.

[john.w.lawson]

I have 12 guitars. 11 have some version of a Floyd double locker. There's a reason. Once you learn to set one up properly they're gravy. Intimidating at first, but it's really just a balance between the strings and the springs. Once that clicks it's pretty damn easy to set one up.

I have more. Just them up and play

[metalhobo]

yeah I only have one guitar with a hardtail. I play it a lot, but not because it's a hardtail. I'd probably play it the same or more if it was a floyd.

I have two strats with six-point trems that get a lot of play time. I also have one with a wilkinson tremolo that doesn't have great tuning stability even with the inline headstock and locking tuners. it sounds and plays great but the tuning thing is a bummer.

then there are two guitars with kahler cam trems. one pro from the '80s and another x-trem. both great, and get tons of play time.

the rest have floyds. this is six guitars, I think. all either ofr's or 1000-series floyds. I had a guitar with a jt-580lp from the mid-2000s once. I didn't really like that bridge. not much experience with other floyd-like units.

some people like to lord over the floating bridge guys with claims of "but you can't change tunings quickly!!!" well, I wouldn't even change tunings with a hardtail quickly, as you're throwing your intonation off when you do. I'd rather just have a number of guitars with different tunings, each set-up optimally for that tuning. whatever.

[Razor]

some people like to lord over the floating bridge guys with claims of "but you can't change tunings quickly!!!" well, I wouldn't even change tunings with a hardtail quickly, as you're throwing your intonation off when you do. I'd rather just have a number of guitars with different tunings, each set-up optimally for that tuning. whatever.

This right here.

[pianoguyy]

"can't change tunings quickly"

I was at the bar watching a half-way decent band totally ruin the night because they thought they would do songs that required tuning and detuning and retuning between songs.


Besides, there's this little dutch inventor named Edward Van Halen. He invented a detuner called D-Tuna. If done right, it is faster than tuning any hardtail.