out with bc rich, in with jackson

[wilkinsi]

Re: out with bc rich, in with jackson

i mentioned nothing about imports. whether the fault lies with bc rich or rosetti, i don't care. i emphasised the fact that it was the one guitar that kept coming back faulty and that i wasn't prepared to piss about. i've never had this type of hassle with jacksons. they actually sound better to me.

[nateb]

Re: out with bc rich, in with jackson

Wow...

They have really gone downhill. *Turns on the wayback machine* I remember when even the cheaper BCR's were just fantastic shredding guitars. I love the old Biches and Warlocks.

Personally, I dont think your statements are harsh at all. If I spent my hard earned cash on a lemon, I would be pissed off.

I always wondered about the new floyd speedloaders. Is it the bridge or the installation that was bad?

-Nate

[jackson3]

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Yes, but the fact remains it is an IMPORT you bought. You can't simply say "BC RICH suck" because you tried one import guitar. At least try some before saying stuff like that. Check out my post that i bumped up from 2 years ago. I bought a DXMG and it turned out to be the worst guitar I've ever had...But I;m not saying jackson suck because I know they have USA's that are great

[wilkinsi]

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both. the neck was warped causing the cutting into the frets. the trem very quickly runs out of range (alum key job) and squeaks from behind the trem when using the arm (grating metal sound - its not the springs). they are not worth the money. i now have a jackson dxmg and a wrmg and either guitar will shit all over the bcr from a great height. the best advice i think i've ever given to anyone is simply don't buy an nj speedloader. does it not surprise anyone that bcr have already caught on to the idea by quickly releasing the FR version. sadly, this doesn't solve the issue in that they use even cheaper woods and there's no ironbird in that FR range. chances are, they haven't solved the neck dive problem either. even if i ordered a custom bcr, i have no faith in the distributor who should've checked everything before sending the guitar in the first place. avoid like the plague.

[jackson3]

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yeah i have heard bad things about the speedloader, though i've not seen any in music stores yet, did you ask to get one through a shop? i think i would've asked for my money back straight away [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

btw are your dxmg and wrmg japanese built or korean?

[Jacksonite]

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i had a floyd rose redmond 4 with the speedloader. and once i got it set up, it was as good as the OFR. I think I am the only one who liked the though...

[SRD86]

Re: out with bc rich, in with jackson

WOW Bitter!
I understand I'd be pissed too about my coin down the drain, but maybe you should've looked into the stuff more before spending money blindly.
I LOVE BC Rich, EARLY Bc Rich, since Bernie passed, the quality has gone downhill bigtime I will agree, I've owned plenty of Rich's and I have three right now that I will die with. The three of course mid 80's. Sorry you bought a shit guitar, but if you check around, Gibson/Fender, any company can make shit too.

[wilkinsi]

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if i buy a custom bcr - it is imported into the uk via rosetti. rosetti sent the replacements of the speedloader. my previous "import" bcr's have only had neck dive issues. they were made with rosewood necks, normal licensed trems that don't squeak, and no twisted necks. when i switched to jackson guitars, they had more clout in the sound, and personally felt better built. i will not spend thousands on a custom guitar anyway because i'm hapy enough with the spec on the wrmg and dxmg. i wouldn't risk a custom bcr thru rosetti. i did check the spec on the speedloader and even test fired the s/l but as sod's law dictates, you don't always find faults on the first inspection. the shop fobbed me off 3 times with pseudo repairs before i went thru 3 shoddy replacements in very poor cosmetic condition. not everyone gets problems with bcr. all i did was kick off about the poor service i recieved and aired my delight at my wrmg and dxmg which just so happen to cost less and have extras not available on bcr's nj series: bound fingerboard, emg-hz pickups, shark/pirana inlays, turbocharger (verrrry nice!) and fantastic weight balance.

[RacerX]

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btw are your dxmg and wrmg japanese built or korean?

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NO KOREAN DXMGs

WRMGs are Japanese

[JACKSONFREAK]

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Welcome to Heaven. I think youll find Jacksons to be spme of the best playing guitars for the money with a build quality better than thier price.
Don't discount BCR completely there is still the over priced american stuff. lol As for the Speed loader I think it's an abomination. It's sacrilage. In the words of James Hetfield. Floyd Rose GOOD... Speed Loader BAAAAAADDD...
Gil

[wilkinsi]

Re: out with bc rich, in with jackson

i would save up and buy a custom bcr if the uk distributors weren't so careless. bring back m.a.d for bcr distribution.

[metaljunkie]

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I keep hearing bad stories and reviews about newer B.C.Riches. I would like to know how old of a B.C.Rich would I have to find to get a decent one.

[Venomboy]

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If you get a custom BCR from the late 90's to the present, the quality is all over the place. I have 3 that are fantastic. I've played others that were crap. Just try before you buy. Many BCR enthusiasts will agree that 1985 and earlier models are killer.

[Chrisb]

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82-86 were the best IMO. But anything from 80-95 is killer. I'd even say up to 01, but alot of people would disagree with me, and those people have more experience than I, so I bow to their experience on that one.

[Inazone]

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I find it funny (in a sad way) that a great number of people think that "post-Fender" Jacksons are of worse quality than "pre-Fender" Jacksons, because they don't like Fender. Meanwhile, BC Rich has changed ownership many times, but because none of the parent companies are household names, very few people recognize that a change has taken place. I grew up on budget guitars, starting with Harmony, Squier and Lotus. My first look at a "real" guitar was when one of my bandmates bought a Charvel. In my next band, one of the guys also had a Charvel, and soon I was down at Guitar Center spending $200 on a JS-1.

I don't still have the JS-1, but I remember it fondly because the workmanship was equal to any USA Jackson I've ever owned. Meanwhile, I have friends who have purchased BC Rich imports that were unplayable. It's puzzling that when cheap brands like OLP and Agile can put out good-quality budget guitars, an established company like BC Rich struggles to do the same. At this point, it would take a great deal of blind faith to even order a custom USA Rich as I see it, simply because of the company's reputation.