Wood Quality of current Imports

[pro-fusion]

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I agree with Noodles that the difference is really in having the guys at the factory choose the very best pieces of wood from the stock that comes through the door. Obviously, the volume of guitars that comes out of the Japanese shop is much greater, so it would be more difficult for them to be so choosy on their mass-produced guitars, regardless of where they are getting their stock from. And that kind of labor-intensive stuff jacks up the price, as well. I'd be curious to play a Japanese custom-shop Jackson, to see how it compares.

Interestingly, the wood in the set-neck Schecter Diamond Series guitars, which is almost all maple and mahogany, is usually higher in quality than that in the other Samick-made brands I've played, such as the 1000-series LTD guitars, even though those guitars usually use the same types of wood. I wonder if Schecter has a deal where they get better materials, or they pay extra to have Samick be choosier?

[Jacksonite]

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I have a MIJ custom, and the wood is of a very high quality... it feels a little lighter than i would expect...but very nice,,

[Sunbane]

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Indeed, my JS30WR Warrior has a great unplugged sound... I was really surprised when I got it, didn't expect much. Not bad, this Indian Cedro stuff.

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According to the jackson website its Alder, but based on what John said it sounds like it would be Cedro. Not sure which is true.

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The spec listings on Jackson's site contain lots of errors, and have done so from the start. Listen to John. He does work for Jackson, and he probably has a pretty good clue about how things are done.

[shadowcat]

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Indeed, my JS30WR Warrior has a great unplugged sound... I was really surprised when I got it, didn't expect much. Not bad, this Indian Cedro stuff.

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According to the jackson website its Alder, but based on what John said it sounds like it would be Cedro. Not sure which is true.

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The spec listings on Jackson's site contain lots of errors, and have done so from the start. Listen to John. He does work for Jackson, and he probably has a pretty good clue about how things are done.

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I'm pretty sure it's Indian Cedro because that's what was the general info when these models were introduced. Only the website says something about alder... and we know how accurate that one is. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] *hint hint*

[Chrisb]

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The spec listings on Jackson's site contain lots of errors, and have done so from the start. Listen to John. He does work for Jackson, and he probably has a pretty good clue about how things are done.

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I was just covering my ass in case it does happen to be alder. I believe John over the website, especially considering the various mistakes on the website (or incomplete info).

[StarRider]

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The spec listings on Jackson's site contain lots of errors, and have done so from the start. Listen to John. He does work for Jackson, and he probably has a pretty good clue about how things are done.

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I was just covering my ass in case it does happen to be alder. I believe John over the website, especially considering the various mistakes on the website (or incomplete info).

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Isn't that false advertising? Or not getting what you pay for?

[wilkinsi]

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Indeed, my JS30WR Warrior has a great unplugged sound... I was really surprised when I got it, didn't expect much. Not bad, this Indian Cedro stuff.

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According to the jackson website its Alder, but based on what John said it sounds like it would be Cedro. Not sure which is true.

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The spec listings on Jackson's site contain lots of errors, and have done so from the start. Listen to John. He does work for Jackson, and he probably has a pretty good clue about how things are done.

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oh frig. that's why my wrmg doesn't have a carved top then. shit. jackson should correct errors to avoid disappointed import customers. would also be nice to stop choopping the number of available finishes too. i nearly ordered a dk2 in tobacco sunburst until a helpful jcf member pre-warned me. thankyou.

[JACKSONFREAK]

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Cedar does have a very unique tone. Look at the acoustics that have a cedar top. Its warm like mohagony but yet projects like spruce or maple. As a solid body electric it would sound full and warm with good projection kinda like alder meets mohagony. Cedro could be considered as the less expensive equivalent to cedar as Nato is to mohagony.
from what i remember the X series Jacksons are all cedro but i could be wrong.
Gil

[Chrisb]

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So thats what Nato is...I mean I'm familiar with the wood but I always wondered what it was a "cheaper equivalent" of. BC Rich uses it for their "high end" () import series. Really the only wood I have a problem with is Agathis. Its a total piece of shit wood in my opinion. Even Asswood which many people here don't like I think has a very nice sound, its just very soft and dents easily.

Usually when I see a wood like Cedar as a body wood I get suspicious because I can't recall many people who use it for electric bodies. Doesn't necessarily mean anything but typically if you don't see others using it there is often a reason (sappy, oily, toxic, could be any number of reasons). I have seen it used as a top wood alot as you said and its highly praised, so no doubt as to its tonal qualities. Which is pretty much what John said about the cedar soloist.

[der_kopf]

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look at these www.kritz.com
next chance i have to try one...
The "softwood" he uses is regularly cedar.

[pro-fusion]

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The only guitar that I've played with a cedar body is the Conklin Groove Tools 7-string guitar, which sounds like crap. I don't know if that's due to the design, the pickups, or the body wood. But it didn't have very much 'oomph' when played without amplification, so I have to think the body wood is a factor.

[jcmktgguy]

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A. Our import guitars have 1 or 2 pc bodies.
B. JS Series guitars have Cedro bodies. I'll have the website fixed.
C. We use REAL mahogany in our imports, not Nato, which is called Mahogany by many companies (they know who they are!).

[fett]

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The aforementioned cedar soloist is hanging in John's closet, making his clothes fresh and moth-free.

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[StarRider]

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A. Our import guitars have 1 or 2 pc bodies.
B. JS Series guitars have Cedro bodies. I'll have the website fixed.
C. We use REAL mahogany in our imports, not Nato, which is called Mahogany by many companies (they know who they are!).

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Sp what is my new DKMG? Trans Black Dinky Strat?

[toejam]

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The only guitar that I've played with a cedar body is the Conklin Groove Tools 7-string guitar, which sounds like crap.

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Cedar? I thought those were Cherry.