JT580 vs JT500 Floyd Rose Licensed Jackson

[rjohnstone]

Same can be said for the JT-580 as far as the route goes.
I think you're refering to the JT-580LP, which has a different route.
The JT-500 and the JT-590 are the exact same dimensions... just different material and quality.
The 500, 580 and 590 all have the same post spacing as an OFR.

[Jackson-Charvel]

I was referring to an angled baseplate JT580. I have several guitars that have that and instead of me calling it a JT-580lp I just use the JT-580 nomenclature.

Was there a non angled JT-580 somewhere I never saw before? I thought Henrik cleared up this issue on his Jackson tremelo's page...

[Jackson-Charvel]

See what I mean... This is a JT-580 on left and JT-580LP on right. With the LP the only difference is the tuners and locking mechanism, which are located differently for a lower profile but their baseplates are still the same (Angled).

I stand by what I said, if the intention was to upgrade to an OFR, it would certainly look better in a guitar's route that was made for a JT-500 or JT-590 than a JT-580/580LP, otherwise you'd have that weird gap which IMO looks totally ghetto, and you might as well be playing a hondo than a Jackson at that point.

[rjohnstone]

Ahh yea.. the base plate on the 580 is angled, but the regular 580 (not LP) uses the longer screws like a Floyd, so an OFR would actualy fit in it better.
The 500 and 590 are Schaller style and use the shorter screws, so the route is smaller on the back side.

[Jackson-Charvel]

I'm never worried about the back route for pull ups, as you can get shorter screws so that is not an issue. The angled route where the posts and baseplate are is the main point.

[BenoA]

Thanks for all the interesting replies guys!

[jackson1]

Was there a non angled JT-580 somewhere I never saw before?

I never saw one either.

I thought Henrik cleared up this issue on his Jackson tremelo's page...

What do you mean, JC? I don't recall we discussed this very subject . The only thing we discussed recently was my mixup of the JT500 and the JT580 and that was fixed shortly after.
I don't speak much about the "swapability" on the various tremolos on the site, due to the inherent complexity on the issue. Too many diverting stories and experiences to make a foolproof How-To.

[Jackson-Charvel]

Henrik that's what I meant. The only issue that was getting people confused was the JT-500 being the JT-580 in the pics on your page. After that was ironed out everything there is pretty solid as far as facts.

I was getting the impression MR. Johnstone was saying the JT-580 had the same rounded baseplate like a JT-590 and JT-500 which is why I posted your pics to point out the fact that they are both angled which IMO won't look good with a OFR sitting in that route as there were pics of people here doing that very mod.

[jackson1]

Oookay, gotcha. My english comprehension isn't always top notch, I'm a little slow sometimes

[mm2002]

Oookay, gotcha. My english comprehension isn't always top notch, I'm a little slow sometimes

Sometimes? Hah! You damn foreigner!

[toejam]

See what I mean... This is a JT-580 on left and JT-580LP on right. With the LP the only difference is the tuners and locking mechanism, which are located differently for a lower profile but their baseplates are still the same (Angled).

The original JT580 had a square baseplate. There was also the JT580LP '94 (which was only available that year), that had a square baseplate as well... I had one on a deep purple Dinky Reverse, bought it from Greg Crowe, had it for awhile then sold it to someone else here.

[bratfink]

I'm never worried about the back route for pull ups, as you can get shorter screws so that is not an issue.

By pull ups do you mean tucking your fingers under the back and lifting the trem (so to lower the pitch)? If so I find the spring clips behind the Schaller and 590's are way sharp and dig into my fingers. The 580 has longer string lock screws and therefore that isn't a problem. That imo is the only advantage of the 580 over the Scahller. (which I know wasn't the original question)

[toejam]

By pull ups do you mean tucking your fingers under the back and lifting the trem (so to lower the pitch)?

No, a pull-up is when you pull the bar up and back and raise the pitch.

[mm2002]

No, a pull-up is when you pull the bar up and back and raise the pitch.

Oh thanks a lot Joetam! I just tried that on one of my guitars and I broke two strings!

[RacerX]