Jackson Stars RR-J1 Pics

[dangerous_dave]

You're so completely wrong that it's funny!

You do realise lots of us on the forum have pre- and post '02 Jackson guitars, right? Therefore we know that the neck-thru construction hasn't changed.

so does the Jackson stars line have the same neck-through construction as the usa Jacksons??

on the Jackson stars site you can clearly see that it is a neck through, but that kelly looks more like a set through joint..?

[S.O.A.F]

on the Jackson stars site you can clearly see that it is a neck through, but that kelly looks more like a set through joint..?

that's the point
USA already change the way of construction
Jackson Star still do as what USA done before 02

[S.O.A.F]

You're so completely wrong that it's funny!

You do realise lots of us on the forum have pre- and post '02 Jackson guitars, right? Therefore we know that the neck-thru construction hasn't changed.

well,if you see the pics 1 years later form Jackson USA website,maybe u can realize what I say...

I also see the SL-1 black 04 getting rid of finish..
jsut like catalog
two piece of neck

and if u have seen the custom gallery befoer they removed
they do the body with a half neck first (just like 3p body)
then set another half on it (just like set on)

so it's totally different from the old way they done
one neck combine with 2 piece of body(as Jackson star's website ...)

[Sunbane]

I think I understand what Han is trying to explain.

Have a look at this picture:


(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2...eckthruzl1.jpg)

The soloist is a picture of a Jackson Stars, taken from the part of their webpage that explains the construction. The picture of the KV is a scan from the 2003 Jackson catalogue. Notice how the JS Soloist has its maple neck going all the way to the back of the body - while in the KV, only a thin portion of the center piece is maple.

Clearly two different modes of the neck-through construction. Both are obviously neck-through guitars, but one can't deny that they were built somewhat differently.

[ken]

on the Jackson stars site you can clearly see that it is a neck through, but that kelly looks more like a set through joint..?

That Kelly looks like a set neck because of the way the painting works. There's an extra layer on the part of the neck that runs through the body. The paint is darker, but it's still all the one piece of wood.

well,if you see the pics 1 years later form Jackson USA website,maybe u can realize what I say...

I also see the SL-1 black 04 getting rid of finish..
jsut like catalog
two piece of neck

and if u have seen the custom gallery befoer they removed
they do the body with a half neck first (just like 3p body)
then set another half on it (just like set on)

so it's totally different from the old way they done
one neck combine with 2 piece of body(as Jackson star's website ...)

You're misinterpreting the pictures. The way you describe the Jackson Stars construction is exactly how the Jackson construction is. Take this SLATQH, for example:

http://www.themusiczoo.com/JacksonCustomShopSLATQH_ArchtopSoloist_Natural_JA0477.html

If you're still confused, I'll take some close up pictures of one of my post-02 Jacksons over the weekend for you.

[ken]

I think I understand what Han is trying to explain.

Have a look at this picture:
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2...eckthruzl1.jpg)

The soloist is a picture of a Jackson Stars, taken from the part of their webpage that explains the construction. The picture of the KV is a scan from the 2003 Jackson catalogue. Notice how the JS Soloist has its maple neck going all the way to the back of the body - while in the KV, only a thin portion of the center piece is maple.

Clearly two different modes of the neck-through construction. Both are obviously neck-through guitars, but one can't deny that they were built somewhat differently.

I understand what you're saying Sunbane.

However, Jackson Soloists have the same construction as you see in that Jackson Stars Soloist; certainly mine does! I'm sure that if you look at how a Jackson Stars KV is made that you'd find that the neck-thru looks just like it is on that Jackson KV.

[dangerous_dave]

If you're still confused, I'll take some close up pictures of one of my post-02 Jacksons over the weekend for you.

DO IT!! please...


also, alex what site did you order your jackson stars from? and how long did delivery take?


My brother wants a new guitar and I'm trying to show him the way forward.

[S.O.A.F]

That Kelly looks like a set neck because of the way the painting works. There's an extra layer on the part of the neck that runs through the body. The paint is darker, but it's still all the one piece of wood.



You're misinterpreting the pictures. The way you describe the Jackson Stars construction is exactly how the Jackson construction is. Take this SLATQH, for example:

http://www.themusiczoo.com/JacksonCustomShopSLATQH_ArchtopSoloist_Natural_JA0477.html

If you're still confused, I'll take some close up pictures of one of my post-02 Jacksons over the weekend for you.

well.
I know SLATQH is not 2p neck ....
maybe u can post other model pics?
and I can't make sure that the actual year started to be different... maybe after 02 ,or 04

before I saw the SL-1 (04) getting rid of finish
I also thought that was the way of painting work
but I looked carefully,they're two piece of neck

then I saw the custom shop gallery.. just like what I said last post

So maybe someone can find these pics to prove,I can't find it anymore http://www.jacksonguitars.com/custom...to_gallery.php

[Sunbane]

I'm sure that if you look at how a Jackson Stars KV is made that you'd find that the neck-thru looks just like it is on that Jackson KV.

Possibly. Although I would have expected their KVs would be constructed similarly to their RRs...and at least Shadowcat's RR-J1B has the all-maple centerpiece, like the soloist posted above.

[dangerous_dave]

la jackson custom shop gallery

http://web.archive.org/web/20060427200025/www.jacksonguitars.com/customshop/photo_gallery.php

handy little site... www.archive.org then use the wayback machine


now I see how it works, so it is still a neck through, just the neck has an extra bit glued on to it to give it the thickness of the body, the glued to the wings...


why?

[levantin]

So basically the argument here is this: Jackson now uses a two piece centre block, the top piece goes from the bottom of the body up to the scarfjoint while the bottom piece starts from the heel. Jackson Stars uses a single piece of timber for the centre block.

However, the pic on the music zoo web site displays a single piece centre block. The picture on the custom shop website displays a custom shop piece which may have been ordered like that.

Personally, I'm not gonna strip the paint off my guitars to find out Maybe someone in the know could enlighten us? Has the method of neck through construction changed and why? Is this a post FMIC thing?

[S.O.A.F]

la jackson custom shop gallery

http://web.archive.org/web/20060427200025/www.jacksonguitars.com/customshop/photo_gallery.php

handy little site... www.archive.org then use the wayback machine


now I see how it works, so it is still a neck through, just the neck has an extra bit glued on to it to give it the thickness of the body, the glued to the wings...


why?

thanx a lot!!!
but I cant see the page after 9

[ken]

Hey S.O.A.F.,

After pondering Sunbane's pictures, I think I now know what you're coming from.

I think levantin is right, apart from I believe that both Jackson and Jackson Stars use a single block for some guitars and a main block with added pieces on others. Now, are the pieces added on the top or on the bottom? My money's on the top.

well.
I know SLATQH is not 2p neck ....

before I saw the SL-1 (04) getting rid of finish
I also thought that was the way of painting work
but I looked carefully,they're two piece of neck

The only trans. finish Jackson I own is an SLATQH, but I'll take a close up picture of the back over the weekend anyway.

On most maple/alder guitars the stain on the back of the body is uniform, which is why I think it looks like a two piece neck. Here's an SL2H MAH, which also shows that the back is a single neck-thru piece:

http://www.themusiczoo.com/jacksonSL2H_MAHSoloistCaboU14652.html

And here's an SLS:

http://www.themusiczoo.com/jacksonusaselectSLSsoloistU14776.htm

So maybe someone can find these pics to prove,I can't find it anymore http://www.jacksonguitars.com/custom...to_gallery.php

As Dangerous Dave has said, archive.org rocks. For one thing, it's the only place to find metaltabs.com now.

Which picture were you thinking of? Archive.org keeps different updates, so if it's not in Dangerous Dave's link, you may still find it elsewhere on archive.org. Go to the main page and put jacksonguitars.com into the way back machine. Not all pages of every site are recorded at every instance in the database, so you may have to look around at different dates.

Possibly. Although I would have expected their KVs would be constructed similarly to their RRs...and at least Shadowcat's RR-J1B has the all-maple centerpiece, like the soloist posted above.

Hopefully Shadowcat can chime in with another picture of his guitar, square from the rear like the KV above. One thing's for sure, I should stop typing this and go back to work!

Ken

[S.O.A.F]

Hey Ken
I can't find the pic what I've seen too bad

but maybe I was wrong ...
maybe it was jsut someone order a ""Set thru" Jackson,then I saw in Custom gallery..aha

but I do really see that 04 Jackson SL-1 has two piece of neck
and its color is not trans,it's black
in oder to re-finish,so I saw what left behind the finiesh :p

[ken]

maybe it was jsut someone order a ""Set thru" Jackson,then I saw in Custom gallery..aha

Maybe that's what it was. When I'm bored one day I'll look through all the old CS shop photos. I'll post anything that looks like a set-thru neck.

but I do really see that 04 Jackson SL-1 has two piece of neck
and its color is not trans,it's black
in oder to re-finish,so I saw what left behind the finiesh :p

I believe that you saw what you said you saw. Maybe they originally painted it black to hide the fact they messed up and had used a two piece neck?! Next time, take pictures. That'd soon shut me up.

What did they refinish the guitar as and do you have a picture of it?