Can Jackson make guitars with Humbuckers mounted in-body?

[stryperfan]

I've noticed that most (if not all) Jackson guitars with Humbuckers have them mounted to the body using bezels (or are they called pickup rings?). Has Jackson ever had them set in-body? I've heard this produces greater sustain, and I've seen this method employed on several Washburn guitars like the HM series (e.g. the WM 24VF). I assume it's certainly not a standard option, but could one have this done on a Custom Shop guitar?

[charvel750]

Absolutely. In fact, Jackson did it already on a Production Japanese Dinky. I think it was the DR-V.

[Grandturk]

Charvel has already produced guitars with "direct mount" pickups, and I'm sure there are some Jacksons out there that are this way as well. Also - single coils are typically always direct mounted - a la Soloists and PC-1's.

IMO - it does not make a difference in the sound produced. It certainly should not, either - the movement of a pickup should not affect the magnetic field generated by the pickup or the magnetic field being disrupted by the string. Vibrating a pickup does not generate any sound.

[vector]

Charvel has already produced guitars with "direct mount" pickups, and I'm sure there are some Jacksons out there that are this way as well. Also - single coils are typically always direct mounted - a la Soloists and PC-1's.

IMO - it does not make a difference in the sound produced. It certainly should not, either - the movement of a pickup should not affect the magnetic field generated by the pickup or the magnetic field being disrupted by the string. Vibrating a pickup does not generate any sound.

Yup. Mounting p'ups is purely an aesthetic issue though the direct mounting does pose a slightly greater challenge when replacing pickups.

[THOMO]

Getting into Ed Roman stuff here!!!!

[stryperfan]

Ah... So it's just for aesthetics. Either way it certainly doesn't seem to be standard. Any pics of Jacksons with in-body Humbuckers would be appreciated!

[dg]

There were the Aldrich & Falcon models made only for the Japanese market, which were designed by the guy who went on to start Caparison:

http://audiozone.dk/cm/displayimage.php?pid=862&fullsize=1

http://audiozone.dk/cm/displayimage.php?pid=863&fullsize=1

Count me with the skeptics about sound differences until somebody does the simple experiment of taking one guitar, recording clips with the exact same pickups using each mounting method, using the same amp settings & recording setup, then doing a frequency analysis. Otherwise, I say it's all BS, conjecture, and people hearing what they want to hear (or have been told to expect). The human brain is easily tricked, especially when it comes to sound.

[neilli]

Yeah, I think it's pretty much just a visual thing, but I'm happy to go with it as I like the look of direct mounted pickups on certain guitars.

[TVTiZtiK]

Guyver's CS King V has direct mounted pickups:

http://www.leonlive.co.uk/stuff/JacksonCS_KingV_00.JPG

http://www.leonlive.co.uk/stuff/JacksonCS_KingV_04.JPG

You can see some more pictures here:

http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/82019-After-24-months-The-Guyver1-King-V?highlight=

[Grim]

Getting into Ed Roman stuff here!!!!

I remember seeing the video where he goes on and on about the pickup not moving, explaining absolutely no advantages other than that, and then saying it is more difficult to change pickups when direct-mounted.

Ah, Ed Roman is a comedy genius.

[THOMO]

Thats the one I'm talking about!!!!!

[Nightbat]

Was it Tom Scholtz who let his tech twist the strings 'x' times to negate the torsion created by the tuningpegs when winding up?
I for one put this in the catagory "Miereneuken" (Transl: ant fucking - screwing with things on such a small scale, you wonder if it's worth it)

anyways, a plugged in guitar without strings still gives an audible sound when you knock on it
would this effect be 'greater' when the pups aren't mounted on a ring but anchored to the body?

-to me- it seems to be the same catagory

[Grim]

Wasn't that EVH? :think:

I remember something in Guitar world about it...

[RyTard]

So what Nightbat is saying is that maybe there's a tiny increase in woody
resonance. Most likely too small for anyone to notice an audible difference unless
You were using a hollowbodied guitar???

[Grim]

To me, the difference is all aesthetic. I wouldn't make a choice based on sound, because the difference will be so small it would be largely unnoticeable.