Can Jackson make guitars with Humbuckers mounted in-body?

[Nightbat]

So what Nightbat is saying is that maybe there's a tiny increase in woody
resonance. Most likely too small for anyone to notice an audible difference unless
You were using a hollowbodied guitar???

Heh, that's another good point you brought up
If pickups (just strings, coils and magnets) are the end all/be all for you sound, what use is having chambers in your guitar?
and we can go futher than that: how come you can hear the difference of the several different woods used in a guitar?

...just maybe we're totally wrong here and an anchored pup can make a difference in sound as much as hollow/solidbody or alder/mahogany

[Axewielder]

Direct mount pups are cool!

[vector]

Heh, that's another good point you brought up
If pickups (just strings, coils and magnets) are the end all/be all for you sound, what use is having chambers in your guitar?
and we can go futher than that: how come you can hear the difference of the several different woods used in a guitar?

...just maybe we're totally wrong here and an anchored pup can make a difference in sound as much as hollow/solidbody or alder/mahogany

Maybe but probably not: Consider the amount of gain and effects that you use in your rigs, too (if applicable) Lots of gain and reverb, delay, phase, chorus, etc. is gonna overpower subtleties like sustain or tone from a direct mount p'up. Additionally, active pickups will just dominate the signal coming into the amp, all but nullifying the minutia contributed by tone woods, chambers & p'up mounting methods.

[darnoc]

Here's my 2 cents.....I have a Yamaha Blues Saraceno plaid guitar, 2 hums, I took some scrap walnut, cut to the exact size of the p/u holes, glued them in, and I put in 2 of Carvin's hottest humbuckers mounted directly to the body, and it sounds fantastic! Then I put epoxy in the "holes" routed in my 95 San Dimas, and direct mounted the p/u that came in that guitar, and it made a big difference in tone. It takes some measuring for depth, b/c you can't change it easily, but you can always use a router if you need to go deeper, or add epoxy if you need height, but I am very happy with the results! Good luck!

[Nightbat]

Maybe but probably not: Consider the amount of gain and effects that you use in your rigs, too (if applicable) Lots of gain and reverb, delay, phase, chorus, etc. is gonna overpower subtleties like sustain or tone from a direct mount p'up. Additionally, active pickups will just dominate the signal coming into the amp, all but nullifying the minutia contributed by tone woods, chambers & p'up mounting methods.

...Yet my Ibanez still has the mahogany character with EMG's, heavy gain and fx

[Grim]

...Yet my Ibanez still has the mahogany character with EMG's, heavy gain and fx

I know what you mean... Despite the EMGs, by ESP sounds distinctly mahogany too, and it is in B standard.

the 85 I find is less "active" sounding than the 81, so that may be the reason.

[Twitch]

Custom shop can do anyyyyyyyythiiiiiing biotch!!!! It boils down to the $$$$ you got!

[Nightbat]

I know what you mean... Despite the EMGs, by ESP sounds distinctly mahogany too, and it is in B standard.

the 85 I find is less "active" sounding than the 81, so that may be the reason.

Let's face it, a guitar's tone is the sum of all parts
Some factors will contribute greatly to that, others are less pronounced
where direct mounted pups fit? Maybe in the level of string brand change, cryogenicly treated tubes or snakeoil

[RyTard]

Agreed! Mostly a change in feel of the over all tone but not so much
The tone itself. I personally dig the extra characteristics and depth that
Direct mounted p'ups give my vibrato. Seems as though the sustain has
An added girth to it. However do take caution, if direct mounting is done
Wrong it an reek havoc on your p'ups magnetic field due to unwanted twist or
Bend on your p'up

[Grandturk]

anyways, a plugged in guitar without strings still gives an audible sound when you knock on it
would this effect be 'greater' when the pups aren't mounted on a ring but anchored to the body?

All that proves is that the pickup is microphonic.

[Nightbat]

..all pickups are microphonic

[Grim]

... We are not getting anywhere here

[Grandturk]

..all pickups are microphonic

Not true. This is why pickups are potted in wax - to prevent the pickup from generating sound other than that of the string disturbing its magnetic field. If all pickups were microphonic, you could string up some nylons on your electric and play some Bach - but you can't.

[Nightbat]

I've yet to find a pickup that does NOT give you a sound when you knock on the guitar's body
so if your statment is true, that getting sound when hitting a guitar means a pup is microphonic than all pups are microphonic

...not to the degree they give unwanted noise, but microphonic nonetheless

[vector]

...Yet my Ibanez still has the mahogany character with EMG's, heavy gain and fx

Then I'd stand corrected. My experience has been that much of the tonal qualities are buried by the SD Blackout p'ups I play, in addition to hi gain and fx. Stryperfan wants Jacksons w/direct mounted p'ups. I'm certain they're out there. Hope you find one soon!