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  • #31
    Originally posted by DarkkWarriorr View Post
    +1
    The thing is, if it's only $200, I can eat it and live with it as long as I'm getting the guitar that I'll adore for many years to come, but for $600 on solid colors like Agent Orange or Absinthe Frost, that's just freakin insane! Might as well just buy two high-end imports for less than one USA model!... And like Brian has mentioned, not much has been done to the USA Select over the past few years, and the options are kinda horrid as well, no quilted maple tops and chrome on trans finishes, what's up with that?...
    While agreed, please don't diss the Absinthe or Agent Orange, as they DO look great in person...but to each their own
    I just ordered an EDS RR1T to go with the Absinthe Frost one I got two months ago dirt cheap from Sweetwater: the AF was 1,300 and the EDS I am getting made is costing 2250
    Really disturbing to see how Jackson jacked up prices in A MONTH.....Chris Broderick and Ellefson must've gotten them gassed up!:ROTF:

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    • #32
      wait till Tommy shows up on this thread with his dynamite and starts celebrating.
      "clean sounds are for pussies" - Axewielder

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ps43203 View Post
        Why be on the site then?
        English?

        Oh I get it. I didn't say that PRS is the only guitar I like. And even that was the case, I have been here long enough to say that I like most of the people here. Thank you for your concern though.
        Last edited by Musician78; 01-19-2011, 02:54 PM.
        "I would have banned you for taking part in hijacking and derailing a thread when you could have started your own thread about your own topic." - Unknown

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        • #34
          Isn't Chris Broderick a huge Ibanez guitar user?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by lynchfan6 View Post
            Isn't Chris Broderick a huge Ibanez guitar user?
            he looks about average size to me.
            "clean sounds are for pussies" - Axewielder

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            • #36
              Originally posted by lynchfan6 View Post
              Isn't Chris Broderick a huge Ibanez guitar user?
              Somebody missed the ferry
              It's all about the blues-rock chatter.

              Originally posted by RD
              ...so now I have this massive empty house with my Harley, Guns, Guitar and nothing else...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tonemonster View Post
                he looks about average size to me.
                I heard he got a new deal recently, with some other company. Can't remember who it was, though. :think:

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Skizzwizz View Post
                  While agreed, please don't diss the Absinthe or Agent Orange, as they DO look great in person...but to each their own
                  I just ordered an EDS RR1T to go with the Absinthe Frost one I got two months ago dirt cheap from Sweetwater: the AF was 1,300 and the EDS I am getting made is costing 2250
                  Really disturbing to see how Jackson jacked up prices in A MONTH.....Chris Broderick and Ellefson must've gotten them gassed up!:ROTF:
                  I'm not dissing those colors dude, actually I was planning to buy another WR1 in Agent Orange this year, but after the price hike, I'm not so sure now... Anyhow, my argument was; solid colors like those shouldn't be tagged that high, they always had a standard pricing like Black, White, Dark Metal Grey and so forth. That new price hike is normally associated with exotic transparent colors and graphics...
                  -Metal wouldn't be the same without Pointy guitars-

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                  • #39
                    Someone like Mike Learn might disagree but I know for the semi-pro that metallics and pearls can be a bitch to get looking right, though I can't remember if that was because of equipment or just the steady hand/practice to lay it on even.

                    Anyway, so maybe they have found they're having too many "oopsies" with Absinthe Frost and Agent Orange to let them go for a such a small increase over black. :dunno:

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                    • #40
                      As far as the price increase....seems a little crazy at this point. I remember a couple years back people were saying that things were going REALLY slow for Jackson USA. With the current state of the guitar market, I'd doubt it's any better now.

                      Anybody care to take a stab how many USA Jacksons are being made per year? I have a hunch it's not a whole lot. And probably will soon be even less if there is indeed a price increase.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by tonemonster View Post
                        he looks about average size to me.
                        Nice one

                        Originally posted by MakeAJazzNoiseHere View Post
                        I heard he got a new deal recently, with some other company. Can't remember who it was, though. :think:
                        Bwahaha
                        "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Gibsonmac View Post
                          Oh I have owned Several more Jackson's than PRS's in my day, that is true currently as well, I would not say I'm a 'PRS guy'. I have owned, and still own some damn fine Jackson's, but as far as I'm concerned, I can order a PRS and it is a PRS, you expect, and it comes with a certain level of guaranteed quality and tone, but obviously some are better than others, and obviously you can find guitars from any manufacturer that can smoke any other given brand, that is the nature of the beast, of wood, etc. But I have never played a PRS and was like "fuck that shit, this blows ass", I have played one and was like "It's decent, but I'll pass" Unfortunately I have Played Jackson's and have said the former, shit I've eyed over Jackson's and have said the former... inlays coming unseated in brand new from the factory guitars...

                          My argument is quality control, not the quintessential Jackson VS the quintessential PRS... that comes down to personal preference...

                          But in my Own exp of owning 4 Custom shop Jackson's and untold USA's (30 minimum lifetime) I can say with the absolute confidence of many many occasions of personal experience and the experiences of others on this forum that PRS makes a better product overall, at least a more consistent product overall, than Jackson does, but they are much more expensive, the average off the shelf Custom 24 with birds, will cost you more than a decked out one-off Jackson custom shop... so you are definitely paying for that difference.

                          Though like I said, I am not a PRS 'superfan' by any means, I am a tried and true Jackson 4 life fanboy on the other hand, I'm just stating the honest sum of my, and those of others, personal experiences with the two brands, and Jackson could learn a lot from PRS.

                          PRS's all look the same (for the most part) and the rotary switch is terrible (though some swear by it, you do get some cool tones) but it is a standard option to get a 3-way switch, while the same request will from Jackson put you in a CS guitar and price. The Neck carve option from PRS is the best thing ever, Again though, if you want a WR1 with a standard soloist neck, or a Soloist with a speed neck, from Jackson that'll be an extra couple grand... PRS, standard option... And inlays, tops, hardware color, etc... If you want a Trans Black SL2H with black Hardware, you better find 9 other people who want one too so you can get a group buy limited edition, otherwise that's a couple a grand for that option and you have a CS...

                          Jackson needs these options too, just look through all the limited run threads, and the threads all over the forum... its littered with "I wish I could get Black hardware on this", "I wish I could get a speed neck on an RR1" etc, etc, etc...

                          Do not get me wrong, the Jackson's I have chosen to keep are the Fucking shit, and I wish all Jackson's were just like those, and I'm not saying that PRS or any other manufacturer doesn't have flaws or make mistakes, it just seems that they either happen more often in Jackson's than other brands, or they just don't catch them, or they just plain don't give a shit...

                          I love Jackson, I do, but If someone out there from Jackson is reading this, please take it as constructive criticism from a loving life-long fan and customer, things need to change, just page through this very forum, and you'll make a whole lot of people very happy.
                          But see this what I diagree about. I'm saying that I get the same or better quality from Jackson for much less money than a $10K PRS. My experience is owning over 50 Jacksons and never had the issues you or others are talking about. the only time I saw something bad come out of Jackson was a few years back when they introduced the silver/black dragon and my local store ordered a KV in that finish. They knew I wanted one so they got it in the store and I personally unpacked it from the shipping box. It had no serial number stamped in it although it was on the hang tag, the paint around the trem cover was chipped up bad, and someone repaired a piece of broken binding. Not sure what the story was with that guitar but the store sent it back to Jackson, I never actually bought it. Other than that I can honestly say I've never had a bad Jackson.
                          And as for the custom shop upcharges for things you mentioned, you still come out cheaper than a similarly optioned PRS. Again, I'm not knocking PRS but if people think Jackson prices are too high, PRS is downright absurd! Ever try a custom graphic or inlays on a PRS? How much was the upcharge on that? With PRS you can have any finish you want as long as its a quilt or maybe a solid color and thats about it. Birds are as fancy an inlay as you can have or, if you are willing to shell out $25K+ you can have a Dragon. Thanks but I'll stick with Jackson
                          That rotary knob btw may give you a lot of tone options but I've tried it and its just not practical. Its very difficult to switch quickly on the fly during a song. I'd have to rip that thing out and just replace it with a 5 way blade switch or something.
                          And finally, let me tell you how much I believe in my Jacksons. I've bought a lot of them over the years but I've NEVER sold one. They all remain with me. I wouldn't do that if I had duds
                          Rudy
                          www.metalinc.net

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Gibsonmac View Post
                            I know man, My 2001 Custom 24 blows the shit out of even my Custom Shop Jackson's, let alone the USA's, in terms of build quality and fit and finish... I was really disappointed at first.


                            @PS43203: Jacksons have floyd's (well so to PRS's if you want to shell out 10k for a Private stock, all customs have a starting MSRP of 10K). P.S. your basically asking a guy on a Corvette forum who happened to say Ferrari's/Lamborghini's/Maserati's are the shit, "why post here then" lol... Its cuz CS jacksons are the price of factory PRS's... Jackson's, Like corvette's, are sweet in the grand scheme of things, but they are no PRS, the Exotic Import in this analogy.
                            Mine wasn't 10K.
                            "You have a pud..your wife has a face. Next time she bitches..I'd play cock bongos on her cheeks..all four of them!" - Bill Z.
                            I just just had a sudden urge to sugga dick..! If I wore that guitar and didn't suck male genitalia..somethin' is very wrong! - Bill Z.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by ps43203 View Post
                              Why be on the site then?
                              Because you don't have to have unconditional love for Jackson to be here. I love my PRS too, but I don't think it far surpasses the quality of my Jacksons. It's just a different animal. I'll tell you, the frets on my Jacksons are way better.

                              On topic, ordering through a Canadian dealer has you paying these prices in Canadian Dollars anyways, so it's not too big of a hit for me.
                              I like EL34s.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MikeStrat View Post
                                Mine wasn't 10K.
                                That top is almost overwhelming.
                                I like EL34s.

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