Robbin Crosby's Double Rhoads/King V question

[MetalMedal II]

Yes they are Anderson pickups.

I never actually have taken close look at those guitar til now. Do they have the over-sized pickup rings from the 87-88 Jackson era?

[Hellraiser6502]

I never actually have taken close look at those guitar til now. Do they have the over-sized pickup rings from the 87-88 Jackson era?

Yes As I said above, these were built in 1988 and both guitars came loaded with Jackson J95 pickups with oversized rings & covers...the workorders specify that.

As with all of the guitars he received in this batch (Some 13 guitars total with at least 4 of them being neck-thru), he immediately replaced the pickups with Tom Anderson H2 pickups which were quite new at the time, Anderson had only recently begun offering pickups.

[MetalMedal II]

Cool, thanks for the info.

Man, 13 guitars is ONE batch! He must've monopolized the Ontario shop for a bit! I didn't realize Robbin had so may Jacksons.

[AIC70]

As always, Thanks Curt and Sully!! I have pretty much memorized the guitars page at RC.net. I love that site, you guys did an incredible job with it. I should keep asking questions just to see the pictures Curt posts! Always great pictures, I'm glad someone has taken the time to document this history and RC's story. Since the white "NoskcaJ" strat was just a bolt-on body-switch, I can live with it. Actually, it's a gorgeous guitar as a strat too.
Being a details freak I used to read the album liner notes religiously as a kid. I pulled out the CDs again last week and noticed that Detonator states that "Robbin endorses Gibson guitars" and that someone from Gibson is mentioned, but I don't see any reference to Grover Jackson for RC or WdM. This is 1990-ish, so by that time GJ had exited Jackson, correct? I remember Sully saying that RC's involvement with recording was pretty much done by that point. Did RC just walk away from Jackson because of GJ's exit or was this due in some way because of RC's personal problems? Maybe he just liked the change of guitars.

[pfw]

[QUOTE=Hellraiser6502;1520719]Yeah I saw that while I was still on Facebook. I've since exited from the EVIL FB!! I Don't trust that organization.

Is that why the JCF page on facebook gets no love???? I recently discovered it, but it seems like no one posts on there at all...

[sully]

Seems like Robbin started collecting the vintage stuff around that time. Was the Gibson rep’s name “Gypsy?” I had a friend who had a Gibson endorsement then and that’s who the rep was. Anyway…. I can only speculate about why Robbin kinda walked away, but my thoughts are that he may have felt a bit overlooked about the King V/Mustaine connection. Again, just a guess.

Glad you like the site; it’s currently being overhauled and will have a much larger photogallery.

[Hellraiser6502]

Seems like Robbin started collecting the vintage stuff around that time. Anyway…. I can only speculate about why Robbin kinda walked away, but my thoughts are that he may have felt a bit overlooked about the King V/Mustaine connection. Again, just a guess.

I actually asked him about this on one of the many afternoons I spent with him at Hancock Park, just chatting to pass the time. His reasoning on this was what many of us go thru over the years....in fact I'm kinda in this mode right now myself, searching out/buying old Hamer Standards and vintage BC Rich stuff.

Robbin said (paraphrasing after 10+ years because I don't recall EXACTLY what he said):

'I just felt like I needed a change, nothing wrong with my trusty Jacksons but I wanted to get back to my roots...I started out playing Gibson Firebirds and Les Pauls and I always wanted to keep it 'fresh' for the fans...you know new guitars for a different look onstage in any given tour.'

[AIC70]

Sully - the Gibson credit says "Jeff Burdette (and everyone at Gibson Guitars)". And a correction on my part, I said previously there was no reference to Jackson, but it does in fact list Grover Jackson. Seems to be in WdM's portion as it comes after Performance Guitar, the Zappa (I thought I saw Dweezil's name on the Jackson CS list?)family, and Jim Marshall (has to be the Marshall amp company founder, no?). Interesting to me (bored I guess) to re-read those credits - from any band - now. So many bits of history in there. One name that must be Robbin's credit (comes right after William Decker - Bro-in-law? and Jimmy "Catfish" Wingate) was Bob Timmins - wasn't he the counselor for Metallica in that video they did? I think he's also an addiciton specialist.
Curt - thanks for the insight. Kind of glad to hear there wasn't any animosity on RC's part. Wouldn't seem like his style anyway, based on what I have read - (alot of which comes from you ). I think what Sully mentions about the Dave M/King V slight by Jackson would have pissed me off to no end. Thanks for always humoring me guys with my RC question info and pix. I have nothing but admiration and the highest respect for both of you for keeping the memory of Mr. Crosby alive.

[xenophobe]

Wonder what Jackson would be like if Mustaine had bought it instead of Fender.

[AIC70]

Forgot something Curt - you mentioned BC Rich. Like the black Roundhorn V in Round and Round, the white Warlock that Mick Mars plays in Looks that Kill was the other half of my "Those are the coolest guitars in the world!" youth. WTF was Nikki Sixx playing in that vid? It ain't a T-bird.

[sully]

Sully - the Gibson credit says "Jeff Burdette (and everyone at Gibson Guitars)". And a correction on my part, I said previously there was no reference to Jackson, but it does in fact list Grover Jackson. Seems to be in WdM's portion as it comes after Performance Guitar, the Zappa (I thought I saw Dweezil's name on the Jackson CS list?)family, and Jim Marshall (has to be the Marshall amp company founder, no?). Interesting to me (bored I guess) to re-read those credits - from any band - now. So many bits of history in there. One name that must be Robbin's credit (comes right after William Decker - Bro-in-law? and Jimmy "Catfish" Wingate) was Bob Timmins - wasn't he the counselor for Metallica in that video they did? I think he's also an addiciton specialist.
Curt - thanks for the insight. Kind of glad to hear there wasn't any animosity on RC's part. Wouldn't seem like his style anyway, based on what I have read - (alot of which comes from you ). I think what Sully mentions about the Dave M/King V slight by Jackson would have pissed me off to no end. Thanks for always humoring me guys with my RC question info and pix. I have nothing but admiration and the highest respect for both of you for keeping the memory of Mr. Crosby alive.

William Decker is his Brother in Law, Jimmy "Catfish" Wingate was Robbin's guitar tech, and Bob Timmins helped get a lot of guys sober; Steven Tyler, Nikki Sixx to name a couple. He also helped my Hollywood roommate for a bit.

And really, I'm happy to talk about Robbin all day.

Sully

[sully]

Wonder what Jackson would be like if Mustaine had bought it instead of Fender.

IMO, I think it would have been a hot mess. I'm not thrilled with what's been happening lately (especially with the abortion that Charvel has become), but I don't think that Dave (and iirc, Lloyd and some others) would have been good. Even scarier, Dean was in the running. Can you imagine? Ugh.

Sully

[toejam]

Forgot something Curt - you mentioned BC Rich. Like the black Roundhorn V in Round and Round, the white Warlock that Mick Mars plays in Looks that Kill was the other half of my "Those are the coolest guitars in the world!" youth. WTF was Nikki Sixx playing in that vid? It ain't a T-bird.

Nikki played custom Hamers.

[sully]

Nikki played custom Hamers.

Not in the Looks that Kill video (if that's what AIC70 is referring to), that was a BC Rich Mockingbird bass. Nikki also had a couple of KILLER warlock basses then, too.

Nikki moved to Hamer around the Theatre of Pain album.

Sully

[toejam]

Not in the Looks that Kill video (if that's what AIC70 is referring to), that was a BC Rich Mockingbird bass. Nikki also had a couple of KILLER warlock basses then, too.

Nikki moved to Hamer around the Theatre of Pain album.

Sully

Oh, that's right, he had old Mockingbirds and Warlocks in the earlier years. I thought AIC70 was referring to the Hamers that sort of looked T-Bird like.