USA Custom Select - your thoughts?

[xenophobe]

I'm ready to order right now damnit, but I also want to wait just in case h/s becomes an option. If I know it's not gonna happen for a while, I'll go ahead with 'plan-b' now, but I'd hate to order something and have them add a ton more options 2 weeks after I get it...

While waiting, be aware, I don't think this is gonna last all that long. Once the CS starts catching up, it's likely that Select Customs will be dropped.

[VanHoosen]

While waiting, be aware, I don't think this is gonna last all that long. Once the CS starts catching up, it's likely that Select Customs will be dropped.

Really, you think so? Wouldn't the custom shop just inevitably become back logged again?

[wilkinsi]

An SL2H or WR1 in snow white with maple board/black sharkfins and reversed headstock (painted to match body) would be a nice idea. I suspect the maple board would push it into full custom pricing though.

[MetalDaze]

An SL2H or WR1 in snow white with maple board/black sharkfins and reversed headstock (painted to match body) would be a nice idea. I suspect the maple board would push it into full custom pricing though.

Nope, maple fretboard is available for a whopping $25 extra.

[Hellbat]

Yeah the reverse is $300ish IIRC though. Nobody like those WR1's anyways though.


*ducks*

[neilli]

While waiting, be aware, I don't think this is gonna last all that long. Once the CS starts catching up, it's likely that Select Customs will be dropped.

We'll see I guess. The CS 'backlog' delivery time has been over a year for as long as I can remember, so they're gonna have to A: catch up a lot, B: change their processes and C: hire more people if they're really gonna make a change...

[xenophobe]

Really, you think so? Wouldn't the custom shop just inevitably become back logged again?

If they offer too many custom select options, almost nobody will be ordering customs, especially for the $1-3k price difference. It's a great idea now, where the CS is supposedly backed up to nearly 1000 orders... when the backlog drops to a couple of hundred, Fender might re-evaluate this.

We'll see I guess. The CS 'backlog' delivery time has been over a year for as long as I can remember, so they're gonna have to A: catch up a lot, B: change their processes and C: hire more people if they're really gonna make a change...

How long does it actually take them to make the guitar though? The real backlog is only about 12-16 months until the build starts. If true CS orders dry up because of a flood of Select Customs, it won't take more than 9 months before something would have to change, at least from my perspective. We all have a good idea of how things work there. I don't really see this lasting more than a year and probably much less. Oh well, I've been wrong before.

[Flatpicker]

If they offer too many custom select options, almost nobody will be ordering customs, especially for the $1-3k price difference. It's a great idea now, where the CS is supposedly backed up to nearly 1000 orders... when the backlog drops to a couple of hundred, Fender might re-evaluate this.






How long does it actually take them to make the guitar though? The real backlog is only about 12-16 months until the build starts. If true CS orders dry up because of a flood of Select Customs, it won't take more than 9 months before something would have to change, at least from my perspective. We all have a good idea of how things work there. I don't really see this lasting more than a year and probably much less. Oh well, I've been wrong before.

I can see what you mean, but I think the fretboard and color selection may stay.

You may see a slimmer set of options as time goes by though. Guess it depends on if this increases sales and doesn't delay production.
Though, I would wonder why even bother making runs of Standard Selects as they are somewhat redundant with the new Custom Select Options. Might make sense to have open windows for orders and then close them to make runs every 3-4 mos.

[snowblind56]

If they offer too many custom select options, almost nobody will be ordering customs, especially for the $1-3k price difference. It's a great idea now, where the CS is supposedly backed up to nearly 1000 orders... when the backlog drops to a couple of hundred, Fender might re-evaluate this.




How long does it actually take them to make the guitar though? The real backlog is only about 12-16 months until the build starts. If true CS orders dry up because of a flood of Select Customs, it won't take more than 9 months before something would have to change, at least from my perspective. We all have a good idea of how things work there. I don't really see this lasting more than a year and probably much less. Oh well, I've been wrong before.

I can see what you mean, but I think the fretboard and color selection may stay.

You may see a slimmer set of options as time goes by though. Guess it depends on if this increases sales and doesn't delay production.
Though, I would wonder why even bother making runs of Standard Selects as they are somewhat redundant with the new Custom Select Options. Might make sense to have open windows for orders and then close them to make runs every 3-4 mos.

Really though, say I order a Ferrari Red USA Select that isn't in stock anywhere and Jackson has to make it, it's going to take several months to receive it. With the few options the Custom Selects have, there should be no difference in which one they make and there should be no reason to discontinue the line.

I honestly think they will sell more guitars this way. Right now, I wait for unique color Soloists to pop up on ebay and then I have to duke it out auction style. Now, I have like 50 colors to choose from, which will make me order new ones in the color I want. I'm sure others are in the same boat I am.

To keep from cutting into custom shop sales, they need to keep the options limited.

[holycross1]

the color options are AWESOME!!!! all-in-all this seems to be a KILLER thing. i am excited!!!

Where are you seeing the color choices? I feel as if I am completely in the dark on the options and colors. Is their a spreadsheet to download or something?

[mr426]

Id order one now if I could get one hum and non trem.Actully one hum may push it over the edge for me...

[mr426]

I counted today by the way.There are 107 color options now, and that does not include the graphics at all..Way to go Jackson

[xenophobe]

Really though, say I order a Ferrari Red USA Select that isn't in stock anywhere and Jackson has to make it, it's going to take several months to receive it. With the few options the Custom Selects have, there should be no difference in which one they make and there should be no reason to discontinue the line.

You don't understand. That's not the same. A USA Select color only means that you have to wait for the paint phase. Guitars are already being built and shuffled through the color phase. That's how it worked before Fender bought Jackson... though since then they've really reduced the color options. The guitars are otherwise stock configuration. The build time of a custom is from start to finish including wood work. I highly doubt a Select Custom can be delivered in several months. It takes a couple months just for paint... They don't ship instruments that haven't had decent curing time...

[anarkhos]

Where are you seeing the color choices? I feel as if I am completely in the dark on the options and colors. Is their a spreadsheet to download or something?

check the 2013 catalogue at jackson website, there are new stuff there, maybe thats where all this info is comming from.

[snowblind56]

You don't understand. That's not the same. A USA Select color only means that you have to wait for the paint phase. Guitars are already being built and shuffled through the color phase. That's how it worked before Fender bought Jackson... though since then they've really reduced the color options. The guitars are otherwise stock configuration. The build time of a custom is from start to finish including wood work. I highly doubt a Select Custom can be delivered in several months. It takes a couple months just for paint... They don't ship instruments that haven't had decent curing time...

But the minor changes that people make shouldn't add any time to the build. Want a different logo? Grab a different one off the pile. Different pickups? Go grab different ones off the shelf.

The options that they let you change are/should be minimal enough that they won't add much, if any time to the build process. I would assume that's why they aren't offering different pickup routes. And I'm not going to argue with the time frame. I'll believe it if/when my DK1 arrives in 4 months.