Shock at Custom Select delivery times.

[shreddermon]

[Devotee]

Er, I wouldn't call those "minor changes"

Also, I was wondering how long after the Custom Select threads showed up until we saw this type of post. Answer: not long

Them's the breaks, kid. 1st world problems, etc.

[Jacksons Rock]

I'm sure it will be worth the wait!

[lkgwarrior]

Er, I wouldn't call those "minor changes"

Also, I was wondering how long after the Custom Select threads showed up until we saw this type of post. Answer: not long

Them's the breaks, kid. 1st world problems, etc.

How are any of these changes that much different from the CS soloist that Shreddermon just received? That soloist had a matched headstock, different fret board wood, different inlays. To imply that a reversed headstock, small inlay (with stencil provided), and moving the controls lower down the body is any justification for waiting over a year longer than someone else is just simply absurd.

[neilli]

But you're missing the point: The whole mindset behind Custom Select is that in order to make the turnaround is faster and the price lower, the guitars are spec'd from a very limited selection of options compared to a custom shop. Consider them a 'semi-custom'. There are basically no wood working changes permitted other than a rev head - I was begging them to allow me to just have a single volume and no tone control and the answer was a definite 'no' (for then at least), so I just sucked it up and will live with a disconnected tone control. And how difficult is it to not drill one hole? (insert guffaw here)

If you want to get ANYTHING that isn't on the custom select menu, you have to go full custom. And if you want to do some sort of custom inlay, that's always gonna cost you because it's out of the norm, and that don't come cheap. So, as I used to say to people who were considering ordering a full CS with basically standard specs only with a minor change (rev inlays, pickup model swap or whatever), I'd really recommend you compromise on your specs a tiny bit to save a ton of money and an age of time.

But they don't offer graphics in Custom Select, so your order would always have been full custom anyway.

[Newc]

I'm glad they did start this. I know several of us have discussed not only the possibility of it, but also suggested methods of implementing it (as best we could, anyway, largely based on supposition and speculation) over the years. Hopefully once they get a feel for the average turn-around time, they'll phase in more changes, including "one less hole" or "pass me that lefty board, it'll be a cheap way to fill a reverse-inlay option".

[lkgwarrior]

But you're missing the point: The whole mindset behind Custom Select is that in order to make the turnaround is faster and the price lower, the guitars are spec'd from a very limited selection of options compared to a custom shop. Consider them a 'semi-custom'. There are basically no wood working changes permitted other than a rev head - I was begging them to allow me to just have a single volume and no tone control and the answer was a definite 'no' (for then at least), so I just sucked it up and will live with a disconnected tone control. And how difficult is it to not drill one hole? (insert guffaw here)

If you want to get ANYTHING that isn't on the custom select menu, you have to go full custom. And if you want to do some sort of custom inlay, that's always gonna cost you because it's out of the norm, and that don't come cheap. So, as I used to say to people who were considering ordering a full CS with basically standard specs only with a minor change (rev inlays, pickup model swap or whatever), I'd really recommend you compromise on your specs a tiny bit to save a ton of money and an age of time.

But they don't offer graphics in Custom Select, so your order would always have been full custom anyway.

Indeed. Fully understand the concept of the Select models, but still very frustrating. I will never understand some peoples/companies logic. How would a Nebula Graphic be classed as a full custom when you can order a standard USA select with that graphic?

[neilli]

I guess it's because there's production and then there's custom. And in custom, there are two levels, 'CS cheapskate' and 'CS fancy-pants'. So just like you can get a Nebula graphic in production and in 'CS fancy-pants' but you can't get it in 'CS cheapskate', you can get a rev head in 'CS cheapskate' and in 'CS fancy-pants', but not in production (or at least not as a one-off, but that's another story).

Basically, it's not a perfect world...

[Hellbat]

[Dave Rocks]

This custom select option is a farce. If you want a CS, just do it the right way and suck up the wait. If you can't wait 18-24 months, just buy another guitar.

[BLOOD SPLATTER]

"CS cheapskate" & "CS fancy-pants" .... !!

[Richard W]

This custom select option is a farce. If you want a CS, just do it the right way and suck up the wait. If you can't wait 18-24 months, just buy another guitar.

So if you want a Blue Sparkle SL2H with a maple board, a non-recessed Floyd and the controls moved 1/2" back, you should wait 18-24 months instead of 180 days?

[xenophobe]

I guess it's because there's production and then there's custom. And in custom, there are two levels, 'CS cheapskate' and 'CS fancy-pants'. So just like you can get a Nebula graphic in production and in 'CS fancy-pants' but you can't get it in 'CS cheapskate', you can get a rev head in 'CS cheapskate' and in 'CS fancy-pants', but not in production (or at least not as a one-off, but that's another story).

Basically, it's not a perfect world...

Yeah, but it's a less perfect world for the small group of people like us, we kinda get screwed. When we order a custom, it's really custom. I can't imagine how many black Soloists with just their choice of pickups, a relocated volume or switch and maybe a rev headstock are ahead of my two unique guitars in the system. We've both paid attention to new stuff being posted and old stuff on ebay for like a decade or more. With the exception of unsold NAMM guitars hitting ebay, you don't often see anything out of the ordinary. It's not like it was when it was the Mothership.

[Dave Rocks]

So if you want a Blue Sparkle SL2H with a maple board, a non-recessed Floyd and the controls moved 1/2" back, you should wait 18-24 months instead of 180 days?

Jackson is a company that cannot provide accurate dates and they clearly are not putting effort into CS guitars and how to handle the delivery as a normal business would. That being said, the whole CS Select is a farce attempt at solving a problem like using a band-aid after brain surgery.

I've been to the factory and it's pretty clear Jackson standard, CS or CS select and NOT a priority to Fender. It blew my mind when I saw the Fender CS - 6 builders in their own booths making lots and lots of CS guitars - way more than I would have every imagined. Clearly, that is Fender's priority

[Chad]

On other forums, I've heard people talk about a "huge backlog" leading to the 2 year wait time at Jackson. I'm purely pulling this out of my rear-end, but I'm guessing there really aren't that many pending CS orders. As Dave Rocks said, it's more an issue of priority. I'd be REALLY surprised if the CS backlog was 3 digits (meaning 100 or more). Think how few CS NGDs there are on here. It might even be WAY less than 100.