Ontario Soloist? ID Help

[Weezil]

Checked out a soloist in a pawnshop yesterday, didnt get a chance to take pix. Left a deposit.
Trying to figure out if my ID is correct.
It has a control layout almost exact to neilli's soloist (close vol and tone with 3 mini toggles),
In fact I thought it was an exact clone at first. If not for the bigger flakes and JT6/OFR they could be brothers
It was a metallic blue closer to the model series "medium " blue, way smaller flakes in paint than neilli's.
Oversized hum and two singles
Looks to originally have a JT6, swapped in antiquity for an OFR... still has JT6 locknut
Neckthrough, 24 fret ebony/MOP sharkies. headstock has non MOP logo with R not TM
Neck heel is like a model 6, Ontario control route.
NO serial on last fret, looked very carefully, was not sanded either.
Trem cavity had typical jackson stamp with Electric blue metallic for color and 4044 for the order #
Only negative I saw was the OFR had a pullup route added, decent job but was flush mount JT6 originally.
As soon as I pick it up I will post pix...but the no serial thing had me scratching my head.
I guess what I am asking is , Is there any way to decipher the order # ?
Thanks.

[leftykingv2]

Check the last fret for the serial number. There has to be a serial number on the last fret if it's a USA neck thru. The only guitars that were built in the USA that didn't have a serial number were employee owned or employee project guitars. By order number do you mean the "Work Order?" If so that's a really low number. Both of my USA KV2's have a ten digit work order number.

[neilli]

FMIC don't offer a serial or work-order info service, so nope, there's no way to find out anything.

Lack of serial always makes me think 'stolen' first off. But it could be:

-the board has been leveled as part of a re-fret
-that it was an employee project
-that it never got stamped (pretty unlikely)

[leftykingv2]

FMIC don't offer a serial or work-order info service, so nope, there's no way to find out anything.

Lack of serial always makes me think 'stolen' first off. But it could be:

-the board has been leveled as part of a re-fret
-that it was an employee project
-that it never got stamped (pretty unlikely)

Why would a re-fret have anything to do with the serial number being gone? The serial number is stamped into the over hang that doesn't have a fret and is essentially never touched when playing.

[Axewielder]

Why would a re-fret have anything to do with the serial number being gone? The serial number is stamped into the over hang that doesn't have a fret and is essentially never touched when playing.

It can happen if the board is aggressively replaned.

[leftykingv2]

It can happen if the board is aggressively replaned.

Okay cool. Thanks for the knowledge bro. I've never seen a re-fret job on a USA Jackson.

[pianoguyy]

A 4k work order puts it 86-88. Which coincides with the jt6 era.
There are a few that have the trem pull up. If i remember what i read here, it was only one year that had it.

[Weezil]

I did get a really good look at the last fret area not a trace of a serial, no trace of planing or refretting that I could tell.
I have had several J/C neckthroughs and am familiar with the stamp, also have had guitars refretted and these look original as far as I can tell.
First thing I did was try to get a serial so I could ID it easily.
the trem cavity stamp had 4044 in the top field (the line above due date)but I could not read the inkstamp, guessing its workorder?
The number was definitely 40X4, the 3rd digit was either 4 or 9 (crappy handwriting)
I will have pix tomorrow night hopefully.

[Weezil]

A 4k work order puts it 86-88. Which coincides with the jt6 era.
There are a few that have the trem pull up. If i remember what i read here, it was only one year that had it.

The trem pullup on this one was definitely NOT factory, it was originally a flush mount JT6
Thanks for the WO info, I figured 87-88

[Mudlark]

I've read some models made for artists that endorsed Jackson had no numbers.

[straycat]

Does it have the ink stamp info grid in the trem route? If so 87-88.
The only ones I have seen that had the up pull route have been 1 hum soloists.I;m sure they made others with other pick up combinations.
During that time most had the Jackson after the nut string lock even if it did have an OFR on there.You will see some with the floyd nut too.
My 87 crackle super strat was marked OFR on the grid stamp so it was original to the guitar.

[Weezil]

Does it have the ink stamp info grid in the trem route? If so 87-88.
The only ones I have seen that had the up pull route have been 1 hum soloists.I;m sure they made others with other pick up combinations.
During that time most had the Jackson after the nut string lock even if it did have an OFR on there.You will see some with the floyd nut too.
My 87 crackle super strat was marked OFR on the grid stamp so it was original to the guitar.

Yes it does have the grid stamp,only markings on the grid were "4044" and "Electric blue metallic"
It was an old-ass OFR with the threaded bar.
Pull up route was definitely done after the fact.

[Newc]

Could be a legit Ontario Custom.

as for work order #, both my 2006 Customs had 4-digits.

[straycat]

By after the fact exactly what do you mean? We'll need pics of that.
They did do up pull routes some in 89 I've had a few.

[Newc]

Probably showing bare wood. Or rough paint that doesn't match.