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  • #46
    Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

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    There were production import 7-string Rhoads and Kelly models in the 2000 catalog (RR7R and KE7R). Both had reverse headstocks and reverse sharkfins.
    For a Select series now, I think either a Rhoads, Xtreme Rhoads or King V would be awesome with the 4+3 headstock. I think it would probably sell better with a neck pickup, too, instead of just one hum. I think it would be better with a TOM bridge, but I don't mind Floyds either.

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    You're on target here, I think, TJ - Floyd isn't a problem now that there's a real one. (There were some issues with the Takaguchi (sp?) 7 string trem - I think Kragen had some big problems with screws stripping out under normal playing conditions.) I ended up going TOM on mine, but I use multiple tunings, and I hate lo-pro Floyds.

    If you're going to try to draw in more people - to make this run worthwhile - you need two pickups, IMO.

    Mike
    Division - American Metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on Facebook.

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    • #47
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      That's an awesome guitar.
      Not sure if the guitar is well balanced when using a strap.
      I would prefer to have bigger body end like Kelly or King V if with 7string.

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      Actually, you'd be surprised - I think that Rhoads balances as well as a six string one. I know my Soloist 7 doesn't have balance issues, and in fact is actually lighter than most six string Soloists I've played - and ALL of my bolt-ons, both sixes and sevens. Especially with the SLS headstock, balance isn't really an issue.
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      • #48
        Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

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        I would be interested to see King V or Kelly.
        Prefer Kelly because I haven't seen one before.
        1 thing.
        Will Speed neck and mahogany neck hold these 7strings with no problem?
        It's a thin neck if you want to make it harder, the neck has to be little more thicker and stronger neck wood.

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        I don't think strength is much of a problem - especially if it's quartersawn, or it could always be made multi-piece - but I will bring up an issue that I have some experience with on 7 string guitars: Hand fatigue. I've personally found it to be less of a problem with a little more "meat" on the neck. (To put this in perspective, I have small hands, and my main guitar before the 7 string was a '88 USA Dinky, with a REALLY thin neck.)

        Matt Crooks Rhoads 7 has a mahogany neck, and hasn't had any issues - but it's not really super-thin, either. Let me look around and see if I still have my CS order form...

        Mike
        Division - American Metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on Facebook.

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        • #49
          Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

          ooh I'd love either a rhoads or a KV in 7.

          I think I agree with Mike about neck 'meat' too; making it just a tad thicker than the correspondind 6-string really helps with the feel of the neck and keeping the thickness 'proportional' to the width.

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          • #50
            Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

            I also agree with Mike about a thicker neck being better than a thinner one. In an old Hamer news bulletin I got in the mid '90s, there was an article about how thicker necks help give a more "proper" grip for your hand, that it's a little more natural than on a thin neck. I've also noticed that on my guitars with rounder/thicker neck profiles, especially my LP with the '59 rounded neck profile... which I feel really isn't all that thick anyway, and my hands are also on the smaller side.
            I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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            • #51
              Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

              thick neck is better. i used to have a universe - i got one of the first ones when they first came out - it was very uncomfortable to play for any length of time.
              I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

              - Newc

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              • #52
                Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

                The Rootbeer RR is mine. It balances the same as my 6 strings. I do have the spec sheet if anyone wants it.

                Basic specs:
                RR Body
                Mahog. Neck and body
                3/4" Maple top
                24 Frets
                EMG 707s
                String through body
                SLS 4+3 headstock

                It's a great guitar.
                ...that the play is the tragedy, "Man"

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                • #53
                  Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

                  Huge Thanks to Mike and Matt for thier inputs!
                  Now I really want one and hope we can come to an agreement on specs.
                  If not, I would probably order mine with my own specs.

                  [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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                  • #54
                    Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

                    I found my Soloist 7 spec sheet. The neck is identical to Matt's Rootbeer Rhoads, except I got mine oiled and with different inlays. All the dimensions are the same, since they were copied off his spec sheet by Kev Easton.

                    Nut width: 1 7/8
                    Butt width: 2 9/16
                    Scale: 25 1/2
                    Neck Backshape: 820-870

                    Mike
                    Division - American Metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on Facebook.

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                    • #55
                      Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

                      Oiled finish neck back... that should play great.
                      That would be a great choice for mine.
                      The difficult part is what pickups to go with.
                      I have tried 7 string version of Duncan JB and Dimarzio Blaze,I like them for soloing but didn't sound right with Low B string..
                      EMGs would be nice but what about if I want to go back with Duncan or Dimarzio, the big pickup rout would look funny..
                      This bothers me on deciding specs on 7string guitar.
                      Or I should just go with EMGs??
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                      • #56
                        Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

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                        Oiled finish neck back... that should play great.
                        That would be a great choice for mine.
                        The difficult part is what pickups to go with.
                        I have tried 7 string version of Duncan JB and Dimarzio Blaze,I like them for soloing but didn't sound right with Low B string..
                        EMGs would be nice but what about if I want to go back with Duncan or Dimarzio, the big pickup rout would look funny..
                        This bothers me on deciding specs on 7string guitar.
                        Or I should just go with EMGs??
                        [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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                        The JB and Jazz 7s sound great in my Soloist, which is maple with alder wings. The 707s sound pretty damn close - tonally, they're a bit more like the Duncan Custom, IMO, but with more output. I haven't heard a good tone on a 707-81 to make a comparision yet...

                        The low B resonates fine in both my maple/alder Jackson and my maple/mahogany Washburn 7 strings. I think the low B tone has a lot more to do with the wood than the pickups. The Jackson is really resonant, and the Washburn is even moreso - I'd guess a maple thru-neck and mahogany wings would give a really nice tone, especially with an ebony board.

                        Mike
                        Division - American Metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on Facebook.

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                        • #57
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                          Mine - reg headstock - has no balance problems at all, though it is a bit "long" for tight stage situations.
                          Neck size is a bit meatier than my Ibanez, but about the same as my Moore or Anderson. Very comfortable...

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                          • #58
                            Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

                            I guess the key here is the Maple top body and Neck Thru Construction.
                            I have tried Basswood,Alder and Swamp Ash all Bolt on 7 string guitars and didn't sound tight enough at low.

                            How thick is your Maple top?
                            I read Matt's RRV has 3/4" Maple top.

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                            • #59
                              Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

                              I have a swamp ash bolt-on 7-stringer and the low B is beautifully tight sounding; it has dual 707s and I think they really help to keep things sounding tight and not too boomy. (this is not at all to say I wouldn't love a neckthrough jackson 7, more an endorsement of the 707 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

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                              • #60
                                Re: 7 string Select Series Option--Lets make it ha

                                My Swamp Ash 7string guitar had Dmarzio Blazes directly mounted and it didn't hold the bottom end.
                                Great for soloing though.

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