Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

[ranalli]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

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One of the FEW things I will NOT move on is the pickups, must have 2 hums, I can't stand any other set up. And, if you don't use the neck hum, not a problem, but if you do need it, and it's not there then... what do you do?



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Ditto, I'd rather play a pink guitar with two pickups that I can actually use than one BaDasS dEatH mEtAL MuChiNE with one lousy pickup.


I'm waiting people to start chiming in that it HAS to have EMGs.


If you're making a guitar like this you'd want it as versatile as possible without cluttering it with too many options so that it appeals to the most people.

Put passives in.....people can get TONS of tones at that point with simply a pickup swap instead of having to rewire the whole guitar.

[axeman81]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

Please try to stick to the topic...namely speccing a 24 fret Rhoads.
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colors don't matter much, just not a flat color or a flame or transparent.

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you pretty much ruled out everything with your little paradox. how do you like black with gold pinstripes? I think that would look awesome. also I'm thinking the SSM/BVBK would be killer too.
And one more thing, you found inspiration from a thread where they conclude with saying that adding ebony fins to a maple board will increase build time by A YEAR ALONE ? please...I think we're going with ebony board MOP sharkfins. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I'd be cool with one hum 1V but seems a few others won't do it...I generally feel there's not a lot of interest in this project so far. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
We'll see how it goes when Matt gives us a status report from Jackson!

[nix]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

Sounds like some of you are describing a guitar similar to this one:
http://www.kurosawagakki.com/sh_dr/p...rr_bkgp_wc.jpg

That might be a decent starting point for your orders- add a p/u though

[Guest]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

My little paradox? With the exception of 24 frets, most of this is basic USA Select stuff. If it's a limited run, set it apart from the rest, of course without going into a full blown custom.

Again, as I said, if you're counting on me as a potential buyer, I would be out with those stipulations. It's going to be a bit tough getting 10 people together anyway, especially if 2 LTDs are being discussed. I had a black rr1 with gold pins, it wasn't bad, but it's a basic select production model. The one nix posted is cool.

Make em (pins, bevels) red and put red binding and matching logo, now that's a LTD without a lot (if any) increase in price.

Pat

[axeman81]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

yeah Pat, you said "colors don't matter much" then proceed with saying "just not a flat color OR a flame OR transparent."
that's a paradox right there. but I'm not here to argue over semantics. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
also you say "you're out on anything that resembles a select" but I thought the focal point of interest here is actually getting a 24-fret Rhoads...at least it is for me.

I have already stated my preferred options and I have listed a lot of alternatives that will all work just the same for me, I guess the only two things that will make me walk away from this model will be:
* a solid color finish
* front loaded electronics

getting 10 people to agree shouldn't be a world of problems if everyone can work out the differences...there will be some compromise because everyone can't have -their- exact CS dream in a LTD run, but we all have to be reasonable and find out what we can let go and what not.

[Guest]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

I thought it was clear what I was actually saying, I suppose not. Well, figure out who wants what and make a post with the final specs and I'll have a look.

Again, I'm leaning with Xeno and his ideas, so that's something to go on if you like. I'm just jumping in here as a potential participant, following several other's ideas, wishes, etc.

Pat

[~K~]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

Hence the reason these limited runs go down in flames.. no one ever agrees ..

[Guest]

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Agreed... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Pat

[dinkyjacksonman]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

It's better Matt decides whatever the best he thinks by reading this and move on with the spec he decides to go with.
Then whoever likes it, buy it.
It can not be 100% of what you want.

This is the only way to make this kind of limited edition to happen for a real without spending months of just talking about it and I hope Matt can make this happen this time.
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[sambencuda]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

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Hence the reason these limited runs go down in flames.. no one ever agrees ..

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BINGO! I don't want to bring you guys down though. I hope you work it out and Jackson will actually make you a 24 fret Rhoads with specs that you all agree on. How many of these limited run threads have we seen that just fizzle out. the main reason is that everyone wants it their own way and rightfully so, but that won't work in a limited run situation. If you guys can be a little open minded about the specs, the better the chance this will come to light. If you are dead set on specific options, I would hang back, see what Matt comes up with and if it fits what you are looking for great.

Pat had a great point that I agree with. Why get a guitar that is almost a production model? I'd go as extreme as Jackson will allow. That makes it more unique and worth the extra jing it's gonna cost ya. If I have to wait for it and pay more for it, I want something different. Just my opinion.

[~K~]

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Pat had a great point that I agree with. Why get a guitar that is almost a production model?

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Simple .. anything that deviates too far from the Select series guitar becomes custom shop pricing ..

[Deneb]

Re: Limited Run USA 24 Fret Rhoads

Nah, it's not Denebs custom Rhoads, but that would be sweet.

I'm movable on the pickguard.
Finish, I think Black with gold pins would be super sweet, I didn't mention it, I didn't know if you guys would like it.

If someone has to have different pickups, I don't see that being a problem, we could always swap them, with the exception being EMGS, they would put the battery compartment on the guitar, and if you swapped to passive, you've got a useless hole (imagine that!).

I don't care if it's string through, or floyded, I'd prefer a recess, but hey, if it gets a few more people to buy it, I'd take it non-recessed.

I was probably out of line thinking abalone would keep the cost down, I figured maybe 10-12 people getting it would make it cheaper, so as someone else, and myself have stated, I'm fine with mother of pearl. The inlay at the 24th fret has always been something that has annoyed me, why don't they put them there? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] However I can move on that.

And we have to listen to what Kevin says, he's 100% right that if we go too far, it's custom pricing.

What we're aiming for, is a sweet guitar, with a few options that are not standard, at around a USA select price.

That said, how is this like a standard USA, it's going to have 24 frets! I didn't think we had any USA Rhoads that had 24 frets unless they were custom or LE runs before?

[dinkyjacksonman]

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Yes sir!
I just wish Matt to settle on specs and move on.
This isn't only place he will find his customers.
Great place to begin with for sure.
Once he decides specs and start taking orders here and on his website, I am sure he will have a lot of interest from all over the world.

[sambencuda]

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True, but look at the Chlorine limited that Scott is doing. Custom finish, different pickups (EMG's with a dual battery box route), and an oiled finished neck. AFAIK, that is as extreme as Jackson is willing to go. Compared to a regular SL2T, thats moderately extreme for not a whole lot more than USA selct SL2T. I guess my point was, change what you can within Jacksons limits, but use all the options that you can. I could be way off here, but from my experiences with these runs Jackson isn't willing to change much. It's basically taking a USA select and making minor changes such as pickups, neck finishes (oiled or not) and finish options. Thats why I would love to see this happen.

[dinkyjacksonman]

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Jim, RR1 with 24fret neck thru is a huge step as limited edition.
If that happens, I am sure everything else doesn't matter as much as the 24fret neck thru.

All it needs is 2more frets.
Parts color, pickups,body color are something not difficult to change as I have seen before.
So Matt needs to confirm with Jackson if they can do it without maiking it as CS price.
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