1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

[83SanDimas]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Forgive my ignorance but if work order 8092 goes to s# 1399 how can a work order over 9000 go to guitar in the 1200's.

I have a low 1200 Jackson and the w/o is in the 74xx range. (Can not remember exactly)

[81Dimarzio]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Because they start over again after a certain number. Can't remember which number though.

[jonsgon]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

i think the deal here is that serial plates were not issued in order, when that guitar was being made the plate may have been pulled and the guitar not completed for a while or the other alternitive is the guitar was made and they had that plate floating around.........
just a thought

jon

[81Dimarzio]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Maybe this will help.

http://www.jacksonmuseum.com/evoluti...n-serials.html

[Bert]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Chuck -- I have two '86 bolt ons w/ work order numbers in the 8000's (one which was verified by Jackson to have been made in May '86).

I have another one made in January of '86 with a work order number in the 5000's.

So yeah, they used a very wide span for work order numbers, thus, 9000 would not seem strange to me, especially for a december built guitar.

The work order numbers for mine are all under the clearcoat finish in the Kahler trem cavities, so they are almost certainly legit.

I think the guitar is 100% legit, and I'm damn jealous about it! [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[Jim Shine]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Also, the work order number is generated in the beginning of the guitars life and the serial number is attached during assembly. If it took longer to produce a certain guitar, its work order number could be really far off from the guitar that was completed next in line.

Bert, your bolt on from May '86 supports my thoughts. There is one work order # scheme used universally on all guitars and basses. I have a May '86 Soloist with a work order # of 7563.

[ October 25, 2003, 08:10 PM: Message edited by: Jim Shine ]

[Bert]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

I doubt serial numbers were used in order. My May '86er has a serial number of 1266, only two away from this one!

Too bad Fender/Jackson doesn't respond to serial number inquiries any more.

[Chuckracer]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

I love this place! I just learned a ton about these guitars, and I thought I was pretty well informed!
Sweet!

[83SanDimas]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Good Info

I have to stop just looking at the pictures at Robs site and read the pages.... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

I have 7444 w/o Jackson Strathead april 86 I see thy ran up tp 9999 and then back....

[mulder1966]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

I'm sure the serial # were not used in order. My friend and I ordered Jacksons the same day, and recieved them about 1 month apart. My # was 36xx and his was 6xxx

[Bert]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

A couple (way oversized) pics of 8000 range W/O numbers:

http://66.93.130.113/jcf/wo8055.jpg
http://66.93.130.113/jcf/wo8070.jpg

Incidentally, the 8070 has a non-matching plate. If anyone has any clue what the original plate was, or how to find out, please let me know!

[xenophobe]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Serial Numbers up to 1505 were issued in order. I assume when they moved, all the boxes that were neatly stacked somewhere were moved about, as 6000+ blank plates must take up some amount of room, and they were restacked... so at that point, they just grabbed them randomly. Just my postulation.

As for work order #'s, that strikes me as odd, as work orders would be numbered in the order that orders were actually received, so serial number should mean less about actual build date than the work order number.

[Jim Shine]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

Build date yes, completion date no.

[jonsgon]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

jim's is the same thickness as the one i had, it's thinner than the newer ones and mine also had the allen head posts as opposed to the wood screws

jon

[xenophobe]

Re: 1986 San Dimas #1268 is here {pics}

That's why I made no mention of completion date. [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

Of course, completion dates vary and have nothing to do with work order numbers... some guitars were pretty standard and only took 3 months to build, others took longer. To add to the confusion, completion dates should pretty much be in order of serialization though, unless, for example, someone requested a specific serial number, which was done from time to time, but it's unknown if anyone just picked a different number in the same range as the plates they already had at hand... [img]graemlins/brow.gif[/img]