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Re: Any Rhoads with vintage trem besides LTD?
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Any Rhoads with vintage trem besides LTD?
Man, awesome pics [img]graemlins/drool2.gif[/img]Comment
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Re: Any Rhoads with vintage trem besides LTD?
The white one has 23 fretsComment
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See in this article http://randy-rhoads.com/index2.php?id=articles/art26 where Randy Says,
"...Charvel just made me three new guitars. One is my own design plus Charvel's, which hopefully might urn out to be one of my main guitars. There's no tremolo on that one. He's making one as an experiment with Floyd Rose..."
Grover told me that the guitar that he sold to Rob Lane was the guitar with the Floyd. That they had the neck angle wrong and never finished it with the tremolo. Rob later had it finished with a vintage trem. This is also explained in a letter by grover.
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holy thread resurrection!
that makes a bit more sense with the neck angle, i guess.... but the weird thing (to me, at least)is that the pic of the guitar that was found by rob at grover's house has the vtrem holes drilled for it already.
that said, i never get sick of the logo on that guitar. diego, lemme know if you ever need a kidney or anything; i'd gladly trade one for that guitar.
oh, and i love your chicago bears shirt. very timely!
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diego, this is probably a stupid question, but is your guitar serialed?Comment
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ok d thanks for the email i found ya lol ...funny i been a member here sinc 2005 and this is my first post!!!Comment
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Resurrectionnnnn
I hear you.... it is a hell of a Resurrection. It's just that with the recent discovery of the missing NAMM Rhoads the topic is hot again. Especially since I saw this topic on RR.tk.. it got my juices flowing: http://www.nobitching.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=3513
I also was wondering about those holes... I have a theory about this WHOLE RR prototype fiasco! First, the holes answer.... i figure since the Floyd did not work, they figured.... let's try a v-trem to see what happens. It did not work so it was thrown aside, went to Grover's garage, went to case factory, and then Rob found it and had it completed in the 90's. It had to be re-finned then to fit the v-trem.
Now, here's my theory about the prototype v's (Mine, the 2 NAMM v's, and Vinnie's v or v's (i'm not sure if he had one or two... the logo's look very similar).
Randy ordered 3 guitars. He go two of them. The third one (mine) did not work and got thrown aside. Since this 3rd one was supposed to be one with a FLoyd with reverse inlay's, they made a 4th with a Floyd and reverse inlays. This probably went to Vinnie. It would be interesting to see if the frets and weight of Vinnies guitar matched Randy's guitars. Note that Vinnie had the Pink one on sale on ebay about 3 years ago for like $30k to $50k. I do not know if it ever sold. Anyway, all of this happened before the end of 1982. Then they made a few more that went to NAMM in 1983. Remember that it took them about 6 mos to make one of these. If Vinnie got another one then it might have been before the NAMM guitars. Maybe Grover had many bodies laying around that he had made of these guitars for Randy. In this case, in a certain sense, they would have been for him to choose from.
All I know is that Grover tells all of us that these guitars were made for Randy. Whether this is true or not we will never know, but put your self in his shoes. You make a killer new style guitar for a young hotshot guitarist from LA, and he dies. You are left with a few guitar blanks that were supposed to be for him (or maybe not). What are you going to tell anyone that comes along and wants one? You will say what he has said to all of us.... These were for Randy. It's the salesman in him and the intent to raise the prestige of the guitars. I would have done the same thing. So.... we will probably never know the full story, but we do know that these were ALL prototypes (no serial numbers), with hand painted logo's, that were made before R0001. Grover told me that later he got stickers for logo's instead of hand painting the logo's and I am not talking about the original white San Dimas Logo's that we all know about that say Made in USA either. There are early Jackson's out there with Logos that look hand painted but are in fact stickers. I'd love to find them. Maybe Rob Witte's green soloist prototype is one of them? I will need to ask him.
Let me know what you all think.
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No, no serial number.... neither does robert's green soloist prototype nor Sean's 1983 NAMM v have serial numbers.
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ok here is how i got into this...in 1985 i was talking randy's mom at musonia i lved about 1/4 mile from the store and about 5 miles from her house at 900 amhurst burbank anyhow we were talking one saturday afternnon about the guitars and she said "" ya know kevin grover was having all these other guitars done for him and i have one he finished after he died he gave me but what of all the others i would love to put them in with the ones he had so one day we maybe could have an exibition of all the ones he played and was going to play..." thats when i said well call him!! i know he would talk with you about it and she said he was so busy she didn't wanna bother him..so i said hell let me do it i'll bother him and thats when i got involved in the goose chaseComment
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Interesting... When I told Delores that I had this guitar, she did not seem to be interested, but I always thought that it would be cool to have all of them together. So, what happened when you called Grover? Were you interested because of the history, or did you want to buy one of these guitars?
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This guy claims to own the white one...www.seanmichaelclegg.com/gallery.html
Looks like it to me.Comment
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Guess it's not missing anymore huh?Comment
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Interesting...looks like another switch was added, but other than that it is in good shape.Comment
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What am i missing here? In those pics of the choad with the "missing Rhoads"
Didnt the orignals have the pickup switch on the side of the guitar by above the neck pup? Or were these not madelike theone he Randy already had?
if they were made the same weres the whole for the switch? It doesnt look refinned on the pics. Am i confusinf things here? Or what?
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