1984 Rhoads on e bay

[Jim Shine]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

I know there are always exceptions to the rule. I have one Soloist completed in February '85 with the three piece neck and a January '85 with a one piece neck. Just because each was started in 1984 doesn't make it an 1984 dated guitar. It is an '85. I have a Soloist serial #RR0632 (which is the guitar with the decal like your friends Rhoads), which reads as a '84 Rhoads guitar in the list. It is really a '85 Soloist. I would be wrong to advertise it as an '84 anything.

I understand why its lame to be into details, but people just are. They always will be too. It happens all over the guitar market, almsost every model out there has a 'key year'.

[ January 12, 2004, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: Jim Shine ]

[brett8388]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

Excellent points, Brad. Thanks.

Brett

[kickaxeguitars]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

Brad, I know you got the smokin Jackson collection and me of all people could care less about serial # this.. and work order # that .. when it comes to players.
Like I said before, My 2 Page's were identical in every way..
BUT, when it comes to spending $$$ on guitars, especially collectable guitars, where do we draw the line on dating a guitar?
It's simple. The answer was created about 100 years ago when the first guitars that rolled off the lines in Kalamazoo MI, Nathereth PA and every other manufacturer of the old days-A serial number.
Obviously the guitar savvy buyer could learn some of this "inside info" like on my Page and save $1500.
OR, Someone looking for an early Rhoads could bye your old one Brad knowing it has the early magic..

And by the way, I have spoken with Mike. He could give 2 shits about serial #'s and this or that..He knows he was building them basically all the same-HIGH Quality baby..

But that's not the point of this post. The point, and Bottom line is, Jackson stamped that guitar is 1985 when it was completed, therefore it is an '85 by definition.

[XXX]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

i hear ya ! my 88's 99's and 01's etc play way way better than my 0009, i also figure they had a much better grip on making by the later days than the early days
Brett, Question, you have alot of ltd's, i wish i snagged more, smart move! but my question is my ltd concord is a RR serial #, do you think it would be worth more or less? only 4 with RR #'s

[sully]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

even though you weren't askin me, i'd say less, because of the serial. the serial is part of the series. i'm sure that someone will answer more in depth, or disagree, but that's my feeling on it.

sully

[brett8388]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

Brad, this is just my opinion of course (which is worth squat unless you're asking about strip clubs), but I would say it's worth less with an RR serial number. To me, an LTD collector (I have 6 - 3 V trems, and 3 Floyds), I want "LTD" to start the serial numbers of my guitars. Last year Tim R sold some LTD's and a 1998 "LTD", and the 1998 brought about a grand less IIRC.

Also, when I was dying for an LTD, it was 1992 and I had no money since I was in college. 1992 was THE LTD in my opinion. 1992 LTD serial numbers are the desirable ones to me, and the others (except the Shannon Shortwings) are replicas of the 1992's in my view. The best finds are like 003 with the VTS designation. Jackson stopped doing that pretty quickly since my #84 and #199 do not carry that verbage, for lack of a better word.

Again, this is just my opinion and honestly something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay.

Brett

[XXX]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

even though mine is a vintage trem?

[brett8388]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

Yes. I would say a V trem RR custom shop LTD is worth more than a Floyded RR custom shop LTD though, but still 1992 is the only real LTD to me.

Again, this is just my opinion, and just because I spent a small fortune buying 6 does not make me an authority. I'd be curious to see what it would do on ebay, and if the last LTD price was just a fluke or not. I think Tim got $2600 for his RR LTD, while his 1992's brought $3400 or so.

I do know someone looking for one if you want to sell it, but I believe he's only considering 1992 models.

Brett

[Boxcar Willie 84]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

Will someone PM me a link to the auction if it is not too much trouble? I'd like to see this guitar.

[L]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

this info is great but I am lost as shit.

Someone please point me to the details on 92 vs. 98 LTDs? I am not famaliar with the 98 run. Currently, you cannot order a LTD-spec through the custom shop, correct? Can you order a PCS-spec Rhoads?

[A. Pulver]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

Last I heard, the custom shop will still do a PCS Rhoads, but with a RR #.

[brett8388]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

There's my point - you can get a new PCS replica, but without the "correct" PCS serial number prefix. These are custom shop replicas of the original runs in my view.

In 1998, Jackson did a run of 4 or so "LTDs" that had RR serial numbers, and IIRC they say "Custom Shop" on the headstock. I don't know why they did this, but they did. Brad (XXX) has one of these guitars, and we're discussing the point that these are worth more (or less) than the original run in 1992.

Brett

[roodyrocker]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

Brett;

I have one of the 4 RR serial numbered LTD's. From what I understand, these were built for the 97 NAMM show. Are they worth more or less than the LTD serial numbered guitars? That I don't know. But I can tell you it is obviously a rarer guitar. I have an LTD numbered/Schaller-Floyd guitar from the original run. Neither one is for sale so I guess I won't really know.

Well, I'm off to the airport. 2004 NAMM here I come [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

Rudy

[L]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

What;s the deal with the LTD displayed at Winter NAMM 2001, was it just a 1-off?

[roodyrocker]

Re: 1984 Rhoads on e bay

I wasn't at the 2001 winter NAMM, I don't think I've seen the LTD you're refering to. Got any pics of it or a link?

Rudy