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**MetalGrasshopper** · 06-05-2004, 03:11 PM

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**El Bastardo** · 06-05-2004, 03:13 PM

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Those dumb noobs always eh?
Thanks, I'll check that right now..

Leon..

**RacerX** · 06-05-2004, 09:33 PM

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Short answer: improved it

**P I K A** · 06-05-2004, 09:43 PM

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Hey Leon I had the same questions when Fender took over but I had Jacksons from Akai and Jacksons from Fender and we are better off right now. Jacksons have gotten better ,at least to me, over the last year. Joe

**sully** · 06-05-2004, 09:47 PM

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my honest opinion from what i've seen, it's the same. there have been guitars that i've seen at kevin's that had some serious issues.

however, they seem much more interested in taking care of things in a timely manner, so that in itself is an improvement.

sully

**slayer** · 06-05-2004, 10:44 PM

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Wow Sully, you said SOME guitars. I thought flaws with Jacksons was very rare, I didn`t expect to hear that. Jack.

**El Bastardo** · 06-06-2004, 04:15 AM

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however, they seem much more interested in taking care of things in a timely manner, so that in itself is an improvement.

sully [/QB]

I've been reading this quite a lot in the fender/jackson issues. And frankly I'm a bit concerned, cause normally when you need to deliver the same quality in a shorter time, quality is the victim. Does anybody have any information on this?

Leon..

**makovai** · 06-06-2004, 11:43 AM

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normally when you need to deliver the same quality in a shorter time, quality is the victim. Does anybody have any information on this?

Leon..

I got 1 of the first Fender built Jackson's and I didnt seem to think the shorter time was an issue. took 8 months to get mine.
BTW, no quality was cut out of my guitar, cept I will say the studs that hold the floyd were not new, they were scratched and rusty. everything else was perfect.

**Jim Shine** · 06-06-2004, 11:48 AM

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Aren't they using CNC machines now? That alone will speed things up a bit and maintain higher quality level.

**SixStringShred** · 06-07-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by jsullysix:
my honest opinion from what i've seen, it's the same. there have been guitars that i've seen at kevin's that had some serious issues.

however, they seem much more interested in taking care of things in a timely manner, so that in itself is an improvement.

sully

I really hope one of the guitars you saw at KE's that had serious issues was not a black SL2H....because I just ordered one of those from him. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

**busdriver** · 06-08-2004, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by jsullysix:
there have been guitars that i've seen at kevin's that had some serious issues.

Interesting. Do you have more details about these issues? Somehow I don't believe that they would be too serious.

**makovai** · 06-09-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Shine:
Aren't they using CNC machines now? That alone will speed things up a bit and maintain higher quality level.

As a CNC programmer for years, and in a similar situation my comments would be: I worked for a comapny called Kimber of Oregon, We made high quality .22 caliber rifles. After few years of making the machined parts on a CNC they bought a CNC mill for inleting the stocks. After I got it programmed and running smooth the production was way faster. like 5x faster. however the hand craftsmanship took a little hit. The stocks were coming off the machine almost perfect and then low $ guys would deburr them, not the gunsmiths like in the early days, so when they went to assembly they didnt get the attention they once had. Production was definatley up, but quality if anything prolly went down a bit. Just another 2¢ from my experience.

**1959burst** · 06-09-2004, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by makovai:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jim Shine:
Aren't they using CNC machines now? That alone will speed things up a bit and maintain higher quality level.

As a CNC programmer for years, and in a similar situation my comments would be: I worked for a comapny called Kimber of Oregon, We made high quality .22 caliber rifles. After few years of making the machined parts on a CNC they bought a CNC mill for inleting the stocks. After I got it programmed and running smooth the production was way faster. like 5x faster. however the hand craftsmanship took a little hit. The stocks were coming off the machine almost perfect and then low $ guys would deburr them, not the gunsmiths like in the early days, so when they went to assembly they didnt get the attention they once had. Production was definatley up, but quality if anything prolly went down a bit. Just another 2¢ from my experience. <hr /></blockquote>very good point [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

**sully** · 06-09-2004, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by busdriver:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jsullysix:
there have been guitars that i've seen at kevin's that had some serious issues.

Interesting. Do you have more details about these issues? Somehow I don't believe that they would be too serious. <hr /></blockquote>sure...cracks in necks and in finishes which certainly could be caused in shipping. some of the other things that i recall was what looked like missing binding that was filled with epoxy (my jcf 01 had this) and some file marks on the fretboard that weren't taken care of after the binding was done. there was also cracks in the clear around the binding over frets nibs as well.

keep in mind that by nature i'm NOT at all an anal person, but these are things that i've noticed. however, these aren't things that didn't happen pre-buyout.

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