What models are getting the Speedloader trem?

[Tekky]

Re: What models are getting the Speedloader trem?

As much as I love the Floyd Rose tremolo, I think that this one is gonna flop. I just don't see it taking off. They should re-focus their attention to the current 6 and 7 string tremolos and possibly a fixed bridge version of the original Floyd.

[toejam]

Re: What models are getting the Speedloader trem?

Originally posted by TEKKY:
As much as I love the Floyd Rose tremolo, I think that this one is gonna flop. I just don't see it taking off. They should re-focus their attention to the current 6 and 7 string tremolos and possibly a fixed bridge version of the original Floyd.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[RacerX]

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Let me be the contrarian and say that I like the bare headstock look. The Jackson pointy headstock is a great design, and stands the test of time. Re: the Speedloader bare H/S, I predict we will all get used to the look, kinda like the 2000 Cadillac DeVille.

[SLY]

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I saw once a pic of a guy who put a speedloader on a JEM, and he put kind of circular black covers on the tuning machines holes, and it didn't look as weird as when the head is fully bare.

[hippietim]

Re: What models are getting the Speedloader trem?

Originally posted by SLY:
I saw once a pic of a guy who put a speedloader on a JEM, and he put kind of circular black covers on the tuning machines holes, and it didn't look as weird as when the head is fully bare.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That'd be me. This is it:



Here's the thread on how I had Floyd's shop do it for me:

http://www.jcfonline.com/cgi-bin/ult...c;f=1;t=001858

[hippietim]

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BTW, the black cover things are part of the speedloader retrofit. I just wish they were gold.

[jackson1]

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Wow Tim, somehow i missed that old thread about FR! Good reading - thanks for sharing!

/Henrik

[sambencuda]

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I bought a speedloader for a project a few months back. I had it on a USA king V headstock repair for a while. It worked awesome. It takes more time to dial in the intitial setup, but it's worth it. I had left the tuners on and it didn't look all that bad, but it will never catch on. Too bad. I ended up putting the OFR back on before selling it. The speedloader is like a paper wieght now! I honesly don't know what to do with it. It's a great innovation. Better than Steinberger. Too bad.

[Iced In Flames]

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I think the Speedloader sounds good on paper but makes your guitar look like a hunk of crap.
What happens too if it doesnt catch on and they stop makin strings for em?

[Birdzeyeee]

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The Speedloader is a fad idea. Reminds me of the headless Steinberger guitars in the mid 80's. Looks alien, mo mojo, no cool vibe. Maybee I'm just eternally old school - give me a non-recessed Orig. Floyd or a vintage bridge anyday. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[HuntinDoug]

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I don't mind the look of it...kind of sleek & modern looking actually. But, what about what the weight of the keys & how they effect sustain? [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] I read an article a while back about that. Maybe a pickguard style plate mounted on the front of the headstock would break up the look, and add the weight of the keys. Something pointy like a RR pickguard. Or, some kind of inlay above the Jackson logo...I dunno.

[hippietim]

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Originally posted by Birdzeyeee:
The Speedloader is a fad idea. Reminds me of the headless Steinberger guitars in the mid 80's. Looks alien, mo mojo, no cool vibe. Maybee I'm just eternally old school - give me a non-recessed Orig. Floyd or a vintage bridge anyday. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And despite that they still sell them and strings and parts and whatnot are still available.

[Flatpicker]

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The Speedloader is a really good idea. I think Floyd is a little bit ahead of the curve on this one and it's going to sputter to a slow start, but should gain momentum within the next 5 years.
The Alumininum block on the trem keeps the weight down and adds some clarity IMO.
Plus, it will not matter if you break a headstock on your favorite player as long as you have the speedloader.

Has anybody tried the hardtail speedloader yet?

[Tekky]

Re: What models are getting the Speedloader trem?

Originally posted by mattsmusiccenter:
I agree it's gonna flop also. Too bad though because it's a great system and it works a hell of a lot better than a typical FR tremolo. String changes are a breeze and getting it in tune happens almost instantly.

Matt

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Besides the higher string prices and spotty availability of said strings, I think one of the things that's gonna make it flop is the insurmountable paradigm of what a guitar should look like. We're all used to a guitar with functional headstocks. God bless Floyd for his innovation, but like the Steinberger folks, I think we're just not ready for this large of a change.

[hippietim]

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Originally posted by TEKKY:
Besides the higher string prices and spotty availability of said strings, I think one of the things that's gonna make it flop is the insurmountable paradigm of what a guitar should look like. We're all used to a guitar with functional headstocks. God bless Floyd for his innovation, but like the Steinberger folks, I think we're just not ready for this large of a change.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I gotta tell you that sounds pretty funny from a crew of folks that are into guitars like Warriors, Rhoads, Kellys, pointy headstocks, custom graphics, etc.