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  • #16
    Originally posted by JohnnyMac View Post
    Better order all Your graphics soon as rumor has it graphic work will start be sent out to the vast array of Mexican artists soon.
    ???
    Don't worry - I'll smack her if it comes to that. You do not sell guitars to buy shoes. You skimp on food to buy shoes! ~Mrs Tekky 06-03-08~

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    • #17
      Pretty sure this one is not available either.. Or only thru the CS now?
      "Saturn" 92' Dinky

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mayday View Post
        ???
        Yup
        Its in the works...
        Custom Shop-There is no substitute!

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        • #19
          Not a "graphic," per se, but I wish they had kept British Racing Green.
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          "Oh, sure. Like we need your support."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Robert Burns View Post
            Pretty sure this one is not available either.. Or only thru the CS now?
            "Saturn" 92' Dinky
            Nice man

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            • #21
              im not sure why they just dont make a vinyl sticker of those graphics,stick it on and clear coat over it,it would make life easier,and they still can be mass produced
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              • #22
                And then we can pay $2000 for a guitar with a decal over the top? To hell with that.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by JohnnyMac View Post
                  Better order all Your graphics soon as rumor has it graphic work will start be sent out to the vast array of Mexican artists soon.

                  I do not doubt this for one second if there is anything they can do to screw up Jackson they have done it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by JohnnyMac View Post
                    Better order all Your graphics soon as rumor has it graphic work will start be sent out to the vast array of Mexican artists soon.
                    Cool.... Elvis on satin and Jesus playing poker with a bunch of dogs... Should be interesting to see these new gfx options!
                    The 2nd Amendment: America's Original Homeland Defense.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by AK47 View Post
                      I do not doubt this for one second if there is anything they can do to screw up Jackson they have done it.
                      LOL Any Californian-based company be that Fender, Jackson, Mesa or whatever already has a lot of Mexican staff.
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                      Doesn't mean I ain't thinking it

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Carbophos View Post
                        LOL Any Californian-based company be that Fender, Jackson, Mesa or whatever already has a lot of Mexican staff.
                        I am not saying that at all. I am talking about just the over all stupid decision Jackson has made in the last two years.

                        Also the race of the person the builds my guitars is not important. The important thing is that they are American if I am buying American.

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                        • #27
                          Personally I would not mind who will do the graphics as long as the graphics is cool. And it has nothing with the buid quality anyway.
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                          Doesn't mean I ain't thinking it

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                          • #28
                            Right, so all the PR by J/C talking up Dan Lawrence and Mike Learn's talents was just a ruse, so they could pull the rug out from under them and farm it all out to Pedro and his velvet-painted donkey?

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                            • #29
                              Well, that'd be a tough one. Americans hire Mexicans because of 2 things... 1) they're most of the time "experts" on making guitars and painting them etc since they did that for a living in their country, plus, most of them are pretty devoted to their jobs, they push it to the limit. 2) I believe they will be "cheaper" to hire too.

                              When I was working in Seattle I had 2 jobs, I did rebuildings and demo's at appartment complexes and I worked a gourmet restaurant as a waiter on the evenings. I'm not Mexican, I'm italian, living in Peru. Thing is, the owners of the places me and my friends worked for were pleasantly surprised that we had University degrees, we knew 3 languages and we did everything fast and better than some of their American employees, and definately better than Mexicans though, we were getting 12 bucks per hour and the American guys were getting 25.... The thing with Mexicans is that most of them who "cross" over to the US do so ilegally and most of the time they're not instructed, some of them are actually "bums", most of them are families looking for a better living, but the thing in common with the guys that cross over through the river or whatever is that they're very poor and that they're not that well instructed, like, no high school and all.

                              I'm not making a generalization here, but most of the guys I worked with who were Mexicans, were that way, and most of the people I met who worked with Mexicans (illegal crossers) were this way too.

                              I think that the crew guitar builders hire, are usually compeltely legal and they get them because they got special skills on determined areas, like painting, finishing, etc etc and they must rule on that field.

                              If you check Fender, BC Rich, Moser, Jackson, Dean, etc they all have Mexicans, no exceptions, and they do almost all of the work.

                              I'm a total defender of the concept: "buy an object made in it's country of origin". Always. If you buy an American guitar brand, get the USA made, or if you want the Japanese guitar brand, get it made in Japan. Like, I wouldn't buy a Ferrari "made in Germany". BUT, the people who work at these countries making these objects, are usually not always "true Americans". Same applies to Europe. If a guy named PANCHO finished my King V, but the guitar was made in the USA, with all the required quality standards that means, then... what can I do about it? I'm pretty sure it will be hard to find a guitar company in the USA with pure blooded Americans doing all the work, like, sanding down guitars, wiring electronics, hell, cleaning up the workshop. Myabe in the 50's?

                              Ever seen "pimp my ride" or "overhaulin'" on TV? Did you notice the people doing most of the finishing, audio setups, interiors, etc?

                              Think about it.
                              Last edited by LEOKV2; 02-23-2007, 12:05 PM.

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                              • #30
                                As long as the artist was talented and did quality work, I wouldn't care if he/she was a freakin' penguin from antarctica. I do prefer Dan and Mike's work, though.

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