The Right Jackson

[Gabriel Raphael]

Sitting to play = laziness unless you're playing a Classical (because standing with an acoustic simply looks bad).


You are not required to be a "student" to own a Rhoads - opinions are nice to have, but statements like that are simply snooty and ill-informed.

I once saw a photo of a guy in a country band playing a pink Rhoads with black bevels flipped lefty. Play whatever you want, however you want.

Well you can play it however you want but if you really play guitar allot you will notice that to get the most of this one or any it is better of you learn how to hold one right, bad haits only hold you back

There is nothing wrong with accepting yourself as a student, we all still learn something, we you say it stops here or there then it is your choice, some people like to grow on.



But yeah, i don't think anyone was been snobby for the fact that the RR guitars where built around Randy's specifications who was a rock and serious classical player as well, if you play classical there are many rules you can break and some you can not at all, sitting right is one you can not break if you plan to move in positions that requires that, and having a pick RR guitar with black bevels and a lefty headstock still does not change that as well, the KV does and you almost can not sit with this cockroach looking guitar.

You want a all around guitar to play seriously from home, recording and to gigs then get check out a RR guitar with 2 humbuckers, if your used to Les Pauls this is a great lead guitar compliment as well compared to soloists and other strat styled guitars, now this is my opinion at the moment cause i own 2 RR guitars, a Ibenez and several Les Pauls and the RR's replaced the Ibenezes in a flash, i will not buy a KV cause its just a RR guitar with a long fin, the specs can be modified and i get better tone from a RR., but its true its up to you, no one knows what level your at or why you want a guitar, i just wanted to say that the RR is perfect for anyone serious about guitar, and we are all students if we are serious.

peace

[zeegler]

For playing standing up, my KV1, is by far the most comfortable, and easy to play guitar I own. King Vs are so perfectly balanced, if you take your hands off the guitar, it will not budge from playing position. Plus, it's light, so it's easy on your back. I also find Vs very comfy to play sitting down. You just put the lower wing between your legs.

[zeegler]

Peace and Happy holidays!

I love m RR5 for a practice guitar, its just string through but the sustain and action blows my Les Paul out of the water.

I avoided to get a RR guitar ever since Randy died in 1982., just did not seem right and also the guitars as i heard where never finished to his specs or general recomendations, but close i guess.

So it was one thing that Randy had guitars for him and another that he was one of those dedicated players who played his guitars 8 hours a day and knew what was needed to build a solid guitar both for performer and studio musicians.


NOTE how fragile the RR and KV guitars are!!!

BUT--> keep in mind that Randy was a teacher and a Classical guitarist., So with his guitars you are required to be a student and fallow the rules to get the most out of your instrument,

- You have to sit like a classical player (recommended for all styles to improve while avoids laziness)...

- You also have to be careful and and take care of your guitar not to bang it around and chip the fins....

Benefits from RR guitars:
- Great action,
- Great sound,
- Easier to sit with then KV guitars.
- Easier to take care of hen KV guitars,
- Close to Les Paul neck,
Most guitars out there do NOT combine with Les Paul or Gibson Marshall or other amp settings well, you will need to adjust your amps to the guitars to get close to fat tones.

Over all you need to try any guitar you buy, but i can tell you this, Randy made the guitar not just to play live but to play it period, most players who despise metal music and the guitars will admit that the RR guitars are incredible, beautiful and inspiring., rarest thing i hear from Jazz and even funk musicians after they actually try one., you be the judge.

Happy holidays

1 - Your English is terrible.
2 - Most of what you wrote is complete gibberish.
3 - Why would an RR be easier to take care of than a KV?
4 - Most of what you wrote is complete gibberish.

[Gabriel Raphael]

1 - Your English is terrible.
2 - Most of what you wrote is complete gibberish.
3 - Why would an RR be easier to take care of than a KV?
4 - Most of what you wrote is complete gibberish.

Peace

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[zeegler]

Peace

3- the RR is way easier to take care of then a KV or a normal V., you be the judge, of course a soloist is also easier but i advised the RR over all., sorry but for me the KV is only a metal looking guitar to stand up with.

G

This still makes no sense. What do you mean "easier to take care of"? It's a guitar with a slightly different shape.

Does a KV eat special food?

You're basically arguing that a RR is better than a KV, which is stupid and juvenile. They are both great guitars, and have very minor differences.

RR has one long wing, one short wing.
KV has two medium length wings.

I have no problem sitting down with my KV, and I had no problem with the RR. Neither was more comfortable than the other, but neither was designed for sitting. If you want a guitar that you can play primarily sitting down, then you don't get a V of any kind.

I've owned both a USA RR, and a KV1, and the only reason I got rid of the RR, is because I don't use a Floyd, and I don't like the unnecessary pickguard. It ruins the look of the guitar. As far as taking care of the guitar, the RR is actually easier to bang up, because the top wing is longer.

Just say what you mean. You own a RR, so you prefer it. Spare us the senseless drivel about playing in classical position and all that bullshit.

[Szostak]

Try them, try them, try them, try them. No matter what anyone here says it all boils down to what you wanna hear and see yourself playing. With a cap of 1500, i don't think you'll regret whatever it is you buy.

[j2379]

morons make me laugh.

[Bengal65]

If you want a guitar that you can play primarily sitting down, then you don't get a V of any kind.

Now that is gibberish:ROTF: (IMO of course) I wondered about sitting with a RR1 and a KV. I tried them out in the seated position and I was sold! I have 2 of each and I primarily play them seated at home.

Anyway, to the original poster, see if you can try them out to see what best suits you. If you hang around this forum much, you will have GAS and get one of each Jackson made. I know I did

[anuske9]

I tend to find people that say, "we all have our own opinion" usually don't.

I had originally bought an RR1, but after having to return it for damage issues and playing a dinky I ended up ordering a soloist.

[Newc]

having a pink RR guitar with black bevels and a lefty headstock still does not change that as well,

peace

You misunderstand - it was a right-handed Rhoads played lefty. Like Hendrix did.

[Spivonious]

I prefer the Soloist/Dinky shape because my right forearm is more comfortable. It's also easier to play sitting down compared to a King V or Rhoads. I liked the Kelly I had because it had a nice thick sound to it but comfort won out in the end so I stuck with a strat-shape.

You really need to play each shape. Everyone has different needs from a guitar.

[Gabriel Raphael]

This still makes no sense. What do you mean "easier to take care of"? It's a guitar with a slightly different shape.

Does a KV eat special food?

You're basically arguing that a RR is better than a KV, which is stupid and juvenile. They are both great guitars, and have very minor differences.

RR has one long wing, one short wing.
KV has two medium length wings.

I have no problem sitting down with my KV, and I had no problem with the RR. Neither was more comfortable than the other, but neither was designed for sitting. If you want a guitar that you can play primarily sitting down, then you don't get a V of any kind.

I've owned both a USA RR, and a KV1, and the only reason I got rid of the RR, is because I don't use a Floyd, and I don't like the unnecessary pickguard. It ruins the look of the guitar. As far as taking care of the guitar, the RR is actually easier to bang up, because the top wing is longer.

Just say what you mean. You own a RR, so you prefer it. Spare us the senseless drivel about playing in classical position and all that bullshit.

Peace

I went to post back to you and i erased my last previous post due to some silly freaken keyboard out here in france where we are celebrating the holidays.

I tried the KV and RR, i like the RR more, its me, the KV i would get if i only play gigs standing up, but i still prefer to have one long fin for the same reasons Randy had it done, to at least sit with the guitar to play it. I do not think you can sit at all with a KV with out been even extra careful of the lower fin., of course both are fragile but the one fin looks cooler to me anyway so i settled for the RR's.

Also, i noticed that just about every 3-6 month used RR or KV has a nip on the fins., i move around allot and love playing gigs, so i bang the guitars a bit into the singer's mic stand (if he happens to be also moving near by) as well as sitting sometimes, i am more used to it now but i really do think that people who buy these guitars better be prepared for this.

Hope your having cool holidays.

Peace again

[zeegler]

Now that is gibberish:ROTF: (IMO of course) I wondered about sitting with a RR1 and a KV. I tried them out in the seated position and I was sold! I have 2 of each and I primarily play them seated at home.

Anyway, to the original poster, see if you can try them out to see what best suits you. If you hang around this forum much, you will have GAS and get one of each Jackson made. I know I did

No it's not. As I said. I can sit with either, but there are better options if sitting down is your thing. I almost always play standing up anyway.

[Gabriel Raphael]

No it's not. As I said. I can sit with either, but there are better options if sitting down is your thing. I almost always play standing up anyway.

Peace again

We all have to compromise with flying vs, but again i have a right to my opinion and you do yours, no disrespect meant there.

I found Randy's guitar to be allot easier to sit with compared to a KV., also weighs less .,

Again i stand behind the idea of sitting with a RR been a practical and good habit for anyone who is not familiar with classical playing., you have no choice but to sit in that position and it does more good then harm for any player anyway.

I don't know what anyone else is into and while i also agree with you that they should try all the Jacksons i still stress to point out that i found sitting with a RR and KV to be something one has to get used to.

peace

[Szostak]

No it's not. As I said. I can sit with either, but there are better options if sitting down is your thing. I almost always play standing up anyway.

Personally, i find sitting with a rhoads one of the more comfortable positions to be in with a guitar. it's like playing classical but being able to reach past the 15th!