Public service announcement for CS orders with EMGs

[RD]

Not the point of collecting. The point is less wood less tone and you can have a battery box put into the control cavity instead of routing the wood. Unless you are are using something like a PC1 mentioned above where the electronics take up the whole entire cavity.

Trust me... when all you play is EMG'S like I have since 1991 or so, I welcome the Battery Box!

All of my guitar have EMG's, I wish they all had a battery box!

Less wood does equal less tone... more with passives than actives though. That's why people say you can put emg's in a 2x4 and get the same tone, that is incorrect... you can put emg's in a 2x4 and get the same attack, pine, adler, ash, mahogany will all sound differnt with emg's.

The box doesn't remove that much wood that will alter emg guitars. Adler vs mahogany will change the tone with emg's, but not the attack.



I do understand what you're saying.... but for me, years and years of changing batteries and stripping the control cover threads, refilling them with wood putty, shoving toothpicks in the holes for something for the screw to grab when the're stripped... I welcome the battery box!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AK47]

Trust me... when all you play is EMG'S like I have since 1991 or so, I welcome the Battery Box!

All of my guitar have EMG's, I wish they all had a battery box!

Less wood does equal less tone... more with passives than actives though. That's why people say you can put emg's in a 2x4 and get the same tone, that is incorrect... you can put emg's in a 2x4 and get the same attack, pine, adler, ash, mahogany will all sound differnt with emg's.

The box doesn't remove that much wood that will alter emg guitars. Adler vs mahogany will change the tone with emg's, but not the attack.



I do understand what you're saying.... but for me, years and years of changing batteries and stripping the control cover threads, refilling them with wood putty, shoving toothpicks in the holes for something for the screw to grab when the're stripped... I welcome the battery box!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think you are still missing the point you can get your batterbox built into the current control cavity. Dave at fretsonthenet apparntley makes them. So you do not need the wood routed.

[StukaJU87]

I'll chime in with my unwanted 2 cents here. I do not use EMG's and I have passed on a few used and new guitars that have the battery box since I would change the pickups to passives anyway. Purely cosmetic to me, the battery box looks like ass on an otherwise beautiful guitar. (IMO)

[rjohnstone]

Purely cosmetic to me, the battery box looks like ass on an otherwise beautiful guitar. (IMO)

That's like saying you won't buy a car because the under body looks like shit.
Nobody sees it when it's hanging on a wall or off your shoulder.
Hell, the back of a PC1 is down right ugly, but the rest of the guitar makes up for it.

[RD]

I think you are still missing the point you can get your batterbox built into the current control cavity. Dave at fretsonthenet apparntley makes them. So you do not need the wood routed.

For the guys that can't see the box on the explorer... cause I didn't see it, all I saw was the back of a white guitar.














Looks functional and useful...

also depeneds on the depth of the cavity route and how tall the pots are if this will work. Not all guitars have a deep cavity..

Guitar Electronics sell them as well...

[StukaJU87]

That's like saying you won't buy a car because the under body looks like shit.
Nobody sees it when it's hanging on a wall or off your shoulder.
Hell, the back of a PC1 is down right ugly, but the rest of the guitar makes up for it.

No, it's like saying I won't by a car because someone put the battery and a fuel cell in the trunk. No one will see them, but I'll know they are there and they shouldn't be.

Oh, and it is not just the back of the PC1 that is ugly either.

[ToneZone]

But you don't need to change the battery for at least a year. And you have a tech to take care of that for you anyway!

I don't have a tech when I'm out playing, and I change before every show. It bothers me alot when I have to unscrew the cover on my Ibanez. Takes too much time.

[rjohnstone]

Oh, and it is not just the back of the PC1 that is ugly either.

Zing!!! :ROTF:

[StukaJU87]

[wilkinsi]

I might consider getting a spare plate, cut a hole and put the battery box in. Great idea for players wanting to upgrade to active's.

[Newc]

"..upgrade to actives" is grammatically incorrect

On the issue of missing wood = missing tone: the mass of the wood that is removed for a battery box (including the screw holes and wiring passthrough) is less than the combined mass of the box, battery, and wire. Same with a Floyd - the wood removed weighs less than the hardware added. Ergo, more mass = more sustain.

However, you're right about a battery box being f-ugly.

I had a San Dimas Jackson Concert Student bass with the active circuit in it, and they had TWO 9-volt clips riveted to the inside of the Ontario-style cavity cover.

There's room for 2 9Vs in an Ontario route IF you care to spend the time.

[Axewielder]

I do understand what you're saying.... but for me, years and years of changing batteries and stripping the control cover threads, refilling them with wood putty, shoving toothpicks in the holes for something for the screw to grab when the're stripped... I welcome the battery box!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1...If a battery box saves me from having to do that ONE time, it is well worth it. True you may only need it twice a year, but am I supposed to keep a log of when I changed batteries? I have many guitars, and when I pick one up I usually have no memory of when the battery was changed. Without the box, I can't even do the "tongue test" easily on the damn thing.

[AK47]

+1...If a battery box saves me from having to do that ONE time, it is well worth it. True you may only need it twice a year, but am I supposed to keep a log of when I changed batteries? I have many guitars, and when I pick one up I usually have no memory of when the battery was changed. Without the box, I can't even do the "tongue test" easily on the damn thing.

Fail at reading comprehension.

I am pointing out the battery boxes can be put into preexisting control cavities there is no need to route wood out on a future CS order.

As for Newcs post regarding the mass of the wood removed from the guitar to accomodate the battery box and effect on the overal tone qualtiy. Since you are replacing wood with plastic and metal even though the weight may be equal to or greater than does not mean the tone remains the same.

[Axewielder]

Sorry...I usually skim over new threads, try to quickly pick out what if any arguments are going on, take sides, and let the debate begin! It's just how I roll.

The boxes mounted in the control covers would seem to be a win-win BTW.

[AK47]

Sorry...I usually skim over new threads, try to quickly pick out what if any arguments are going on, take sides, and let the debate begin! It's just how I roll.

The boxes mounted in the control covers would seem to be a win-win BTW.

Its OK because I tend to come off as a arrogant prick in alot of my posts so people are more than eager to reply before finishing reading what I wrote.