Identification....?

[Vass]

Hey guys. Got a line on an Ontario, San Dimas plated Jackson (41xx). Guy sent some photos, here they are.

I know this seems ridiculous, but I really can't recall seeing that many pickguarded models from "back then"..plus the blade switch. Neck looks legit to me, so I suppose I'm asking mostly about the body.

Does come with a JT-6, which has been removed for cleaning in these photos.

Price seems reasonable but wanted to see what you guys thought- He's asking $600.

[aceinet]

strange

I'm not an expert on everything Jackson but that just doesn't seem like a true Jackson. Maybe some type of mutt? What type of pickups does it have?

[Newc]

If it's an Ontario-built pre-1990 Custom, then anything's possible.

However, I'd want to see under the pickguard and the neck pocket, and a better shot of the back - namely you want to see how far back the belly cut extends.

[xbolt]

Rear pickup seems to be F-spaced, string tree is not centered, didn't they come with a behind the nut lock?, no rear plate screw holes :think:

Nice maple neck

[toejam]

string tree is not centered

Jacksons don't come with string trees normally. Some idiot did it aftermarket and didn't center it.

[ADR]

Necks legit,but no way is that a real Jackson body.Like stated. .no holes in rear for cover,also notice how the PG's lower horn is pointy,but the horn is rounder. . .not same radius.
Also,it's an 8 hole PG and not 11. I'd ask for more pix.I'd like to see under PG and see routes and neck heel markings. I have an excellent example of my 86 Jackson.I've owned them since Jackson 1st built bolt-ons and never seen a PG on a pointy. I would expect if ordered like this it should have a tone knob as well. Too many ????? i'd be concerned.

[Vass]

Alright, I guess I'll pass on this one. Wonder if maybe it was customed up with no back plate, and then had a PG added to it. Too many questions on it though I guess, and I doubt they'd pull the neck....

[Vass]

Wow, how wrong was I- They took pics:

[Newc]

Hmmm. Wasn't Grover gone by that time? Thus his name wouldn't be in the pocket?

8 holes in the neck heel? Can't say I've seen that before, particularly when 4 of them are smooth (non threaded - dowels?)


There's no problem with the trem cavity not being drilled for a plate - that was an available and common option.

The pointy pickguard is also not an issue - those are held on with screws, which means they can be replaced. As well, since Fender's designs were used for pickguards by all parts houses, it would be pointy.


Again I say the main identifier for the body is the back bevel/belly cut.


Jackson has been known to mount the retainer bar on pointy heads, and angling it to the side is for the 1st string, though the screw on the left looks to be in the path for the 5th.

However, the JT-6 as a full kit had the Kahler-style nut, not OFR-style as shown. Custom Shop option, of course, but if you're paying for the OFR to begin with, that's the bridge you use.


As a final note, that neck was originally on a red body.

[salmonella]

Maybe its reflection but a bit of fret work needed perhaps to get rid of grooves at 5,7 9th (G+D string)

[Jackson/Charvelfan]

I have never seen the second set of holes in the neck before or a neck pocket that was oversprayed. The spring pocket has paint in it were it is usually masked.
Grover was involved in Jackson until after 88 if I recall correctly.
Vass
Do you have any pics under the PG?

[Vass]

No pics under the pick guard. I'm probably going to let this one go.

Of course, now that means it's a Jackson body

Thanks again for your help, guys. Really appreciate it.

Vass

[ADR]

Hey Vass: Just got your PM, glad to see you let it go.Mine does not have that stamp on the neck heel? Iv'e yet to see a Jackson or Charvel ever do that???

[jk2171]

Probably a good thing that you passed. Looks like some Kirk fanboy wanted to make that into an ESP style KH guitar.