Charvel prices options

[Zerberus]

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The $600 isn't on the price list, it's info from Matt. They've offered graphics on Standards on all he recent price lists, but any custom finish costs $200 more on a Standard than a Custom, that's why there's 2 different price list for finish options. For instance a HRF finish on a Standard will cost you $500 on a Custom it's $300, the Vintage Eldred Flame, $700 on a Standard $500 on a Custom, Etc...

Once again, The $600 vs. $300 for the Stratheads makes anything other than one of the 4 basic finishes the same price - Custom or Standard

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When you really think about it, that´s the way J/C always was back in "the day"... every axe was a CS piece. and when you look at how the work is done, it´s really still that way, just a few "standard" setups being produced on the side for hanging on walls at stores, which DIDN`T happen back in "the day"... At least that´s the way I see it...

[mattsmusiccenter]

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I haven't seen the price sheets yet but here's how it was explained to me.

If you want one of the San Dimas Standards, in a plain finish (red, blue, black or white) and want a SH on it... add $600.00 to the base price. If you want this same guitar (eg: no pickup, wood, hardware, or routing changes) with one of the custom shop finishes on it, take the base price, add $600.00 for the SH and add the graphic price.

If you want total control over every single aspect of your guitar (finish, woods, scale/width dimensions, electronics, hardware etc...), take the custom shop base price, add $300.00 for the SH and then add the price of your options.

Now, there used to be a $200.00 upcharge built in to the price of all the special finishes other than solid colors on the San Dimas Standards. I think this was in place because although the basic guitar was a standard production piece, they kinda treated it as a custom shop piece due to the finish. I'll have to find out if this "custom shop upcharge" is still in place for standard guitars with special graphics, if the guitar is getting a SH. The reason I say this is the $600.00 SH upcharge was explained to me as being in place because the guitar is being treated as a custom shop piece.

Make sense? Probably not... I've been on a plane all day. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Regardless, I'll find out about this.

[Spaceace]

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Ok I am confused (not rare) [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] does the same company own both Fender and Charvel/Jackson.And if so do they hold the rights to the strat HS.And if so are they then charging themselves a lic fee and then passing it on to the customer.
I have no idea if this is the case so can someone explain this [img]/images/graemlins/help.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[~K~]

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FMIC is the parent co of JCMI. In business a lot of times even tho both are owned by the same people you pay to use the other divisions intellectual property. This is what you see with the headstock design ..

[Soap]

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Either way, IMO, Charvel isn't gonna have any major concerns selling or moving the SH standards or CS order with a SH.
This isn't a risky bold move like many interpret.

Only potential set back I foresee would be their CS not getting out the orders and delivered on time and causing them to fall behind, way behind. This would possible end up being very bad for sales. This is really the only potential problem I would see happening. Other the that, theres clearly a market demand for the SH thats for sure.

[Jack Napalm]

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Define on time delivery for the custom shop!

[Carbophos]

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The $600 isn't on the price list, it's info from Matt. They've offered graphics on Standards on all he recent price lists, but any custom finish costs $200 more on a Standard than a Custom, that's why there's 2 different price list for finish options. For instance a HRF finish on a Standard will cost you $500 on a Custom it's $300, the Vintage Eldred Flame, $700 on a Standard $500 on a Custom, Etc...

Once again, The $600 vs. $300 for the Stratheads makes anything other than one of the 4 basic finishes the same price - Custom or Standard

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First of all, there's virtually no difference between CS and US "regular production" for Jackson/Charvel, it's more or less same people and same tools. The basic upcharge for CS covers price difference for graphic upcharge. As it was calculated above "heavily optioned" Standard is almost equal in price for similar specs CS. And I believe that real price will not differ at all. S

[Spaceace]

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Thank you kev for the info.Now as far as that goes it seems maybe we have just become accustomed to companies turning the screws on us.I mean if the same company owns it all why the up charge....and not a small up charge mind you that is a pretty sizeable one.I mean in comparison if Mc Donalds absorbed Wendy's and then said you can get a Big Mac at Wendy's but it will cost 2 dollars more for a lic fee would we go for that.At this point I am not sure we would not. As I said I am really not good with all this stuff so I could be completely off base and if so I am sorry.But if all this is true and the answer is "well all companies do it" or "well it has gone on forever" then wow I think we have been duped into a sense of complacency that I am just waking up to.Again I do not know much about it so if this is not the case just tell me what is up....or walk by me shaking your head like I am a crazy person [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I get that alot.

[Carbophos]

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Let's admit Charvel is 100% nostalgia brand now, and strathead nowadays is 100% nostalgia option. It doesn't add any value to tone or playability... I wouldn't call an extra upcharge for something that unnecessary rip-off.

I also think that Fender are not keen to do stratheads on anything but Fender guitars - and there's a serious marketing reason behind it.

[Fretburner]

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well said!

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Let's admit Charvel is 100% nostalgia brand now, and strathead nowadays is 100% nostalgia option. It doesn't add any value to tone or playability... I wouldn't call an extra upcharge for something that unnecessary rip-off.

I also think that Fender are not keen to do stratheads on anything but Fender guitars - and there's a serious marketing reason behind it.

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[shreddermon]

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Geez, that kid is persistent. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[hippietim]

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Well I for one am glad that there is at least one company out there that still sells high quality made in USA Stratheads for under a grand street price. Heck, those even have the correct logo on 'em [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[IrfaanSE801]

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I just kinda skimmed through this thread, but I just had a thought. Even though I will not have the funds for this, it's just an idea for others. Would be it cheaper to do a limited run as we normally do on these boards of a USA Charvel with the strathead option, or would it just be the same as if 10 people ordered 10 guitars normally (price wise)? Hint hint fellas, if it's cheaper, and you can agree on specs, go for it [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

- Irf -

[neilli]

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Is it me, or is there no mention of an upcharge for Stratheads on the San Dimas std pages [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]..... From that price list, I'd say stratheads were CS only.

[Jack Napalm]

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I don't see it. I just printed out the price list as well. Looking at my next custom shop order.