Bad tuning keys?

[titan7]

So I lossy the locking nut on my model 2 the damn guitar will not stay in turn with just bending strings and playing, no trem use?

[ralph]

Do the tuning keys move? or do the strings slip in the tuning keys?

[DalyTek]

Have the strings been properly stretched?

[titan7]

Yes I stretched them, I don't think they are slipping on the posts. I have never had an issue on my Les Pauls with so I would think my tech. is correct. I have other FR guitars that will stay in tune with the nut unlocked, that's what made me think the machine heads are bad???

[straycat]

Nut slots may be the problem I would get a new string lock and fix it.

[sully]

Wait a minute; are you saying that you’ve loosened the locking nuts completely and are having tuning issues? That’d make sense to me, considering that a locking nut platform (and the string grooves) aren’t made to function the same way a non locking nut/nut slot would. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit that you’re having issues if that’s what you’re doing.

[toejam]

I have other FR guitars that will stay in tune with the nut unlocked, that's what made me think the machine heads are bad???

I've never had a Floyded guitar stay in tune with its nut unlocked. It's meant to be locked for a reason.

[titan7]

Ok I am a dumbass, my 375 will stay tuned locked or not

[straycat]

How did you lose the string lock? Its screwed on the guitar.

[Kisonen]

Model 2 has Gotoh made tuning machines that are quality units. It is the old plastic nut that is causing the problems. Buy new kahler locking nut for 20$ from ebay. Kahler lock nut is direct replacement so no mods are needed.

[titan7]

Thx

[SausageofPower]

Wait, this is a Model 2 right? Standard nut with a Kahler string lock? It should stay in tune without being locked if you're not using the trem, it's different from a Floyd Rose locking nut. Also, replacing the Kahler string lock wouldn't alleviate the problem (though it might be a good idea, it's made of better material assuming you get a genuine one). I'd try blocking the trem and seeing if you still have tuning stability issues. If it stops, you should check your knife edges and posts. They might be worn.