Floyd out of tune after pull-ups. Back in tune after dive.

[Chad]

I have a Floyd 1000 that I'm having a bit of trouble with.

It stays in perfect tune after dives. But if I do pull-ups it goes out of tune. Specifically, the high e, B, & G go sharp. The G & A stay in tune. The low E goes flat.

After pull-ups, if I do a dive, it goes back into perfect tune.

I have tried about everything I know to do. Everything is solid/tight. Trem is adjusted level. Nut is fine. Have tried lubing the studs with chap stick.

Thoughts?

[Chad]

I did play around with action height quite a bit on this guitar when I first got it. I adjusted the action height with full string/spring tension. Wonder if I damaged the studs?

[Axewielder]

Make sure your locknut isn't slipping. Hook up to a tuner and push on the strings behind the locknut and see if they go sharp.

[leftykingv2]

I did play around with action height quite a bit on this guitar when I first got it. I adjusted the action height with full string/spring tension. Wonder if I damaged the studs?

This damages the knife edge on the trem not the studs and if you did it a lot it's possible the knife edge is shot.

[Chad]

This damages the knife edge on the trem not the studs and if you did it a lot it's possible the knife edge is shot.

I've heard opinions all over the place on that matter, so I wasn't sure. I'll pull the trem and give the knife edges a look over.

[Chad]

Make sure your locknut isn't slipping. Hook up to a tuner and push on the strings behind the locknut and see if they go sharp.

I keep this guitar at work, so I'll give that a look over tomorrow. But even if the nut was slipping, would it make sense that it goes back in perfect tune after a dive?

[leftykingv2]

I've heard opinions all over the place on that matter, so I wasn't sure. I'll pull the trem and give the knife edges a look over.

The Ibanez Prestige model hand book that came with my RG1550ML is the source of that statement. It says changing action with string/spring tension damages the knife edges. I have always pulled the tremolo springs and the strings when adjusting action so I don't know for a fact how it reacts. I've always done that on all my guitar equipped with a free floating system. Good luck bro!

[warlok]

Add another string for more return tension..

I've always adjusted the height with full tension and never had a problem. But like you said, each has their own opinion on that. But i would check the knife edges and the studs.

[84sups]

Add another string for more return tension..

I've always adjusted the height with full tension and never had a problem. But like you said, each has their own opinion on that. But i would check the knife edges and the studs.

+1 been playing on Floyd since the 90s and never took tension off to adjust action. Makes no sense to, you wont be able to see/feel where you like it

[leftykingv2]

+1 been playing on Floyd since the 90s and never took tension off to adjust action. Makes no sense to, you wont be able to see/feel where you like it

I don't understand how people can think that way. If a guitar has a set of .010 gauge strings on it there is roughly 103lbs. of tension on it. With this much force being exerted how can anyone believe turning a metal screw against a metal knife edge will have no affect? Like I said I have never adjusted my action with any tension on a Floyd Rose bridge so I can't say for sure that there will be damage but physics supports the theory. I have been playing on the Floyd Rose Original since 1986 and I still have my first Floyd unit and the Kramer Baretta it came on. It still works just as good as the day I got it and I have to believe it's because I've always took every and any precaution to keep it that way.

[84sups]

Never had a problem in over 20 years of playing and my first real Floyd is from when they put "Original" on the plate and it's still sharp and always returns to pitch. I do actually lube the knife edges too though

[toejam]

I've always adjusted the height with full tension and never had a problem.

Same here.

[Nightbat]

I always dive the trem so the studs turn a little smoother when adjusting the action

[charvel750]

I don't understand how people can think that way. If a guitar has a set of .010 gauge strings on it there is roughly 103lbs. of tension on it. With this much force being exerted how can anyone believe turning a metal screw against a metal knife edge will have no affect? Like I said I have never adjusted my action with any tension on a Floyd Rose bridge so I can't say for sure that there will be damage but physics supports the theory. I have been playing on the Floyd Rose Original since 1986 and I still have my first Floyd unit and the Kramer Baretta it came on. It still works just as good as the day I got it and I have to believe it's because I've always took every and any precaution to keep it that way.

Physics also supports building a violin to "Stradivarius" specs and when you play it the tone sucks. No problem for the Floyd screws to be turned to under tension.

[Hellbat]

You checked to make sure the nut is screwed tightly to the neck correct? Any burrs in the saddles of the affected strings that could be grabbing them a bit on pull ups? Try some big bends nut sauce or equivalent on the knife edges. Chapstick is good in a pinch but something a little less viscous is better.