CCJ Semour Duncans bridge and neck.?

[Bear R.-]

hi all....I got my dream guitar about 2 months ago ..a "1985 RR Model Jackson"..well I finally pulled the pickups from it and there both CCJ SH-11 Semour Duncans..what im wandering is, are the sh-11's a distortion or jazz pup.?...also, is it normal to have 2 CCJ's in a guitar..this RR model is all original accept for the paint..forgive me for not knowing this stuff.but,just wanderin..thanks...Barry..

[Nightbat]

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Ik know the Seymour Duncan CC "Custom Custom" is the same as a Custom or Custom 5 in winding but a different magnet
they appear a little lower in output (or perhaps just a little less is the grinding frequencies) then the latter p'ups of the family
but they certainly are in the distortion levels of output, not moderate/vintage

[DonP]

hi all....I got my dream guitar about 2 months ago ..a "1985 RR Model Jackson"..well I finally pulled the pickups from it and there both CCJ SH-11 Semour Duncans..what im wandering is, are the sh-11's a distortion or jazz pup.?...also, is it normal to have 2 CCJ's in a guitar..this RR model is all original accept for the paint..forgive me for not knowing this stuff.but,just wanderin..thanks...Barry..

All original except for the paint...and pickups LOL!

The Custom Custom has an Alnico 2 Magnet in in. The Custom has a Ceramic, the Custom 5 has an Alnico 5. Today's favorite is the Custom 8 wit an Alnico 8. They all use the same basic "Custom" pickup coils with different magnets that are easy to swap.

The J at the end of the CCJ indicates they were wound by MJ at Seymour Duncan, a lady who many sellers like to use to inflate the prices of the pickup "These are special wound by MJ".

It may not be normal to have a high output pickup in the neck, but it is normal to use WHAT SOUNDS BEST. That's all that matters. Who give a crap about what is "right". If it sounds good it is good. If it doesn't, change it. And what sounds good to you may not sound good to me. And my guitar rig may sound better with pickups that don't work good in yours.

Use your ears.


Post pictures of the backs of these pickups to let me see how old they are. I really don't think CC's even existed in back 1985 when your axe was made. But SD changed the labels on the back thru the years, and we may be able to give you a time frame as to the age of these pickups.

[Bear R.-]

Oh they sound great..thats not the question here. and the dude that sold it to me said they were original to the guitar.iknow that dosent say a whole lot.anyway, I do believe these were being made back then.it seems MJ was winding these in 83...I was just wandering if CCJ were the distortion pups and was it common to see them in both neck n bridge...thanks.i'll get a pic.for ya.though asap....

[charvel750]

The SH-6, or Duncan Distortion, was coded "DD."

[leftykingv2]

"MJ" Stands for Maricela Juarez. She works for Seymour Duncan in his custom shop winding pick ups and doing "custom winds." I have a few pick ups she custom wound and to be honest they're not anything special. The only difference between a JB and a JB she wound is a hefty price increase. If the pick ups is marked "CCJ" it is a "Custom Custom" wound by MJ. Just like DonP said.

[Bear R.-]

"MJ" Stands for Maricela Juarez. She works for Seymour Duncan in his custom shop winding pick ups and doing "custom winds." I have a few pick ups she custom wound and to be honest they're not anything special. The only difference between a JB and a JB she wound is a hefty price increase. If the pick ups is marked "CCJ" it is a "Custom Custom" wound by MJ. Just like DonP said.

I understand who they were wound by I don't care about that..what Im wondering is,,is it normal to have both 2 cc's in a guitar.and I know their sh-11's but what does that stand for.not Who does it stand for.. is one a dist.and one a jazz.?.they don't say.. they only say CC....but anyway.how 'bout them Steelers ...thanks......

[toejam]

CC means it's a Custom Custom; that's its model name. The model number is SH-11. http://www.seymourduncan.com/product...dex.php?page=3

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/medium-output/sh11_custom_cus/

[sully]

"MJ" Stands for Maricela Juarez. She works for Seymour Duncan in his custom shop winding pick ups and doing "custom winds." I have a few pick ups she custom wound and to be honest they're not anything special. The only difference between a JB and a JB she wound is a hefty price increase. If the pick ups is marked "CCJ" it is a "Custom Custom" wound by MJ. Just like DonP said.

My mileage has definitely been different as far as that goes.

Sully

[sully]

I understand who they were wound by I don't care about that..what Im wondering is,,is it normal to have both 2 cc's in a guitar.and I know their sh-11's but what does that stand for.not Who does it stand for.. is one a dist.and one a jazz.?.they don't say.. they only say CC....but anyway.how 'bout them Steelers ...thanks......

In this case, it'd be normal. A custom custom has an aforementioned Alnico 2 magnet. The custom itself is an overwound PAF. So yes, two Custom Customs wouldn't be crazy at all.

[Chad]

Can't say that I've ever heard of anybody using a CC/CC combo. But with pickups....if it works, it works.

[leftykingv2]

I understand who they were wound by I don't care about that..what Im wondering is,,is it normal to have both 2 cc's in a guitar.and I know their sh-11's but what does that stand for.not Who does it stand for.. is one a dist.and one a jazz.?.they don't say.. they only say CC....but anyway.how 'bout them Steelers ...thanks......

My USA KV2's came with twin JB's. I had a Peavy back in the day with twin Invaders. So I'd say yes it's normal to find certain guitars with two of the same pick up. Yeah the Steelers played good last night but it's about time. They suck this season.

[leftykingv2]

My mileage has definitely been different as far as that goes.

Sully

In what way? Examples?? I mean the custom wound JB I have that she did isn't really anything special. It does sound a little bit different but not overwhelmingly better or worse and the price tag was pretty high for a guitar pick up. I have an RTM she did as well and it's just a JB with tighter bottom end and a little bit more mid range. It was $160 bucks almost two times what a JB costs. The vast price difference doesn't make sense in my opinion when the tonal differences are so slight. But alas everyone's ears hear things differently and also opinions on tone be it good or bad are infinite.

[sully]

I learned about the phenomenon after I had a couple of customs that ended in J. Those particular pickups were put into multiple guitars that had non-J Customs in them, and I did notice a little extra sweetness in them after the swap. Slightly more sustain that would eventually have a slight harmonic overtone in certain notes, just overall a little livelier.

Pickups definitely aren't rocket science and are very much like stew; everyone uses the same ingredients, but some stew tastes better. MJ's got some tasty stew. Giggity.

[leftykingv2]

I learned about the phenomenon after I had a couple of customs that ended in J. Those particular pickups were put into multiple guitars that had non-J Customs in them, and I did notice a little extra sweetness in them after the swap. Slightly more sustain that would eventually have a slight harmonic overtone in certain notes, just overall a little livelier.

Pickups definitely aren't rocket science and are very much like stew; everyone uses the same ingredients, but some stew tastes better. MJ's got some tasty stew. Giggity.

I can agree with that statement because the pick ups I own that were wound by her are a little different tonally than the base models. Weather or not they're worth the double sized price tag is an issue for debate. I honestly couldn't tell someone that the MJ wound JB I have is better than a regular JB. It's slightly different sounding but in my opinion it's slight tonal difference doesn't make it worth two times the price of a regular JB. Just my opinion bro and we all know they vary.