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    So, i decided to tear out the electronics in my Elite KV and replace everything in order to install a momentary killswitch and delete the stock active mid-boost circuit. I never actually found any use for it and i found myself changing batteries way more often than i prefer just to get a signal out of the guitar.

    I tore out the electronics, threw in a couple of 500K CTS audio taper pots, an Orange Drop .47μF tone cap and wired everything up with some 50's-style vintage cloth covered wire. I put a red NC push button in the volume position, moved back the volume control to where the tone was and the tone control back to where the mid boost was. Now i know why some people bitch about the volume knob placement on Jacksons. :idea:

    I didn't have any trouble with the wiring but i did need to ream out the holes for the pot shafts and killswitch with some 120 grit sandpaper wrapped around a paintbrush. Enlarging the hole for the killswitch was a bit of a pain in the ass since the shaft diametre is around 15mm but it worked out great.

    The result? The active circuit was a real tone-sucker! The overall sound is much clearer, warmer and the pickup characteristics seem to be more apparent. I love the roll-off of the Orange Drop too.

    My attempt at a clean wiring job:


    New control layout:


    Wiring diagram:
    Last edited by Devotee; 03-05-2014, 05:11 AM.
    It's all about the blues-rock chatter.

    Originally posted by RD
    ...so now I have this massive empty house with my Harley, Guns, Guitar and nothing else...

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    Looks good! Thanks for sharing your experience! Should help those with questions!

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    • #3
      Clean install.
      Any way you could possibly put more shit into your sig?

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      • #4
        Have you used it yet?
        I have a kill switch, its a flip switch. Its out of the way. I would be too afraid of accidentally hitting it where you have it.

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        • #5
          Gtwgits
          I feel festive all year round. Deal with it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Devotee View Post
            an Orange Drop .47μF tone cap

            The result? The active circuit was a real tone-sucker! The overall sound is much clearer, warmer and the pickup characteristics seem to be more apparent. I love the roll-off of the Orange Drop too.
            Warmer? How much warmer did you need with the Invader which is pretty dark/warm sounding to begin with? The .047 cap will indeed make things warmer, as it's usually used for bass guitars. Nice job you did!
            I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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            • #7
              Why were your batteries discharging? Were you leaving the guitar plugged in all the time??
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              • #8
                toejam, Duncan calls for a .047 on a lot of their diagrams. I don't uynderstand as it's usually way too dark/warm for me. I like .022 or .015 personally.
                Every man dies... Not every man really lives!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pianoguyy View Post
                  Have you used it yet?
                  I have a kill switch, its a flip switch. Its out of the way. I would be too afraid of accidentally hitting it where you have it.
                  I have jammed on it a bit. The push button is almost flush to the body so it doesn't get in the way at all, even with my ham-fisted playing.

                  Originally posted by levantin View Post
                  Gtwgits
                  Yeah yeah, i'll try and get some decent shots of the whole axe soon.

                  Originally posted by toejam View Post
                  Warmer? How much warmer did you need with the Invader which is pretty dark/warm sounding to begin with? The .047 cap will indeed make things warmer, as it's usually used for bass guitars. Nice job you did!
                  Thanks Toe! Yeah, the Invader is a generally dark-sounding pickup, but i've got a FU Tone big brass block in the guitar which really balances it out. Things only start to get really dark when you start rolling the tone knob down.

                  Originally posted by Axewielder View Post
                  Why were your batteries discharging? Were you leaving the guitar plugged in all the time??
                  That's a good question, i honestly have no idea. It would go from having enough juice one day to no signal suddenly the next. I never left it plugged in, so i figured that maybe the jack was mono so the circuit was always closed, so the battery was always discharging. I had to keep taking the battery out before putting the guitar away so it didn't drain. But once i got to rewiring it though i discovered that they did indeed use a stereo jack. :think:
                  It's all about the blues-rock chatter.

                  Originally posted by RD
                  ...so now I have this massive empty house with my Harley, Guns, Guitar and nothing else...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by warlok View Post
                    toejam, Duncan calls for a .047 on a lot of their diagrams. I don't uynderstand as it's usually way too dark/warm for me. I like .022 or .015 personally.
                    That is weird. I like .022 usually. Then again, I'd rather not even have a tone control at all.
                    I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Devotee View Post

                      Thanks Toe! Yeah, the Invader is a generally dark-sounding pickup, but i've got a FU Tone big brass block in the guitar which really balances it out. Things only start to get really dark when you start rolling the tone knob down.
                      Cool. As long as it works for you. I had a friend who wired a Tone Zone into an old Dinky HX I had, and he put in a .047 he had lying around from an old bass. I thought it was weird, but I never touched the tone knob anyway, so it still sounded pretty good.
                      I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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                      • #12
                        It's all about the blues-rock chatter.

                        Originally posted by RD
                        ...so now I have this massive empty house with my Harley, Guns, Guitar and nothing else...

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                        • #13
                          I have a kill switch on my guitar but my reason is probably different than others..I like the idea of cutting the signal when im done playing or when someone is trying to talk to me.. dont have to touch shit but flip a switch.. Its a nice convenience .I also use it as an effect ever so often..

                          as for tone control..I have a push/pull 500K pot with 2 orange drops.. a .022 and a .047.. I might screw around with different value caps when I rewire my guitar in the near future.. Hardly ever use the tone control as I keep the volume bypass engaged most of the time and this also bypasses the tone as well.. Just like to have tonal options even If i never use them..
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                          #3 2001 MIK Squier Stagemaster Deluxe[Fender TripleBucker]
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                          #5 1985 MIA Gibson SG Special (EMG 85 & H)
                          #6 1999 MIK ESP LTD M107
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Devotee View Post
                            That's a good question, i honestly have no idea. It would go from having enough juice one day to no signal suddenly the next. I never left it plugged in, so i figured that maybe the jack was mono so the circuit was always closed, so the battery was always discharging. I had to keep taking the battery out before putting the guitar away so it didn't drain. But once i got to rewiring it though i discovered that they did indeed use a stereo jack. :think:
                            The guitar is mono but the stereo jack is used to de-energize the active electronics. When you remove a mono guitar cable connector, the ring and middle contacts on that connector open up, which basically acts like a power switch.
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                            • #15
                              well.. with a stereo jack.. when you plug a guitar cable in .. it completes a circuit to the batery....as axewielder said..its a switch
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                              #1 2001 MIJ Jackson DK-2 (IG Smoke Stack II,IG Pig Iron & 79' Gibson T-Top)
                              #2 1995 MIK modded Fender squire (IG Rollings Mills,SD SC-101, IG Iron Slag)

                              #3 2001 MIK Squier Stagemaster Deluxe[Fender TripleBucker]
                              #4 2007 MIJ DKMG/DXMG Jackson (IG VOLTS)
                              #5 1985 MIA Gibson SG Special (EMG 85 & H)
                              #6 1999 MIK ESP LTD M107
                              AMPS:
                              1989 Randall RG 100 ES;Randall RH 200;Peavey 412 ms;two Early 70's Woodson 212's
                              ART SGX 2000 w/x15 ultrafoot;ART MutiVerb

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