Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

[veliyasin]

Does Sperzel make tuners with posts long enough to get through a Les Paul Custom type headstock? I tried the regular staggered 6-in-lines and they don't fit.

If Sperzels don't work, what are some alternative locking tuners with metal machine heads?

[rjohnstone]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

I'm pretty sure Sperzel makes a set of 3+3 to fit a Gibson, if not, check out Gotoh. They make some with a feature called "Magnum Lock".
Not as quick and easy as Sperzel's locking system but still just as secure.
I have a set of SG-38's I picked up for my latest Jackson mutt project and they're perfect. Another plus, they're cheaper than Sperzel's... price wise anyway. Set cost me $25.00 brand new from Warmoth.

[veliyasin]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

I made a research before giving them a call tomorrow and looks like their 3-a-side version is totally different with longer shafts, different buttons etc, DUH!

I guess I will get 3-a-side Sperzels in gold, thanks!

[noodlesatf]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

I had a set of 3+3 Spertzels on my LP Standard, and they worked perfectly. Just keep in mind that you will need to drill a hole for the Spertzel lock post, and the screw holes from the old tuners will be visable with the new tuners in place.

[Chuckracer]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

You can also remove the roll pin on the tuner and not drill another hole.

[noodlesatf]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

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You can also remove the roll pin on the tuner and not drill another hole.

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What's to keep the tuner from spinning around, then? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

[veliyasin]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

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I had a set of 3+3 Spertzels on my LP Standard, and they worked perfectly. Just keep in mind that you will need to drill a hole for the Spertzel lock post, and the screw holes from the old tuners will be visable with the new tuners in place.

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I don't mind that. My Custom is not even Gibson per se. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[zeegler]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

Grover makes sets of 3 + 3 locking tuners.

[Bengal65]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

Yes, the 3 + 3 Sperzels fit a Les Paul. I have them on 2 Customs.

[Chuckracer]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

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You can also remove the roll pin on the tuner and not drill another hole.

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What's to keep the tuner from spinning around, then? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

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Snugging up the locknut on the tuner holds it just fine.

[catzodellamarina]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

Sperzels: I had them put on my LP Studio along with a graphite nut. So I know they exist but I didn't do the work. Huge improvement over the cheapie Gibson ivory looking tuners.

[LexLuthier]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

Is there a specific reason why you want locking tuners on a LP? I've found most of LP tuning problems are nut related.

I'm not a big Sperzel fan anymore. I like the concept, but not the execution. I've seen new ones with play in the gears, and I don't like the poor tuning ratio and the extra weight.

I've tried the Grovers with so-so success. I like the ratio (18:1) but the way the string locks seems cheesy. I don't like the fact you need a screwdriver or a coin to unlock the string.

Planet Waves work OK, but something seems cheap about them.

[veliyasin]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

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Is there a specific reason why you want locking tuners on a LP? I've found most of LP tuning problems are nut related.

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Actually I am just changing the hardware from chrome to gold on my Edwards Sykes LPC. But I thought I might as well go for locking tuners while I am at it, because they make string changes a breeze. Although I wouldn't mind a set of those old-school winder Schallers if they were easy to find(yeah, I know mighty mite makes a copy...). [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[skorb]

Re: Sperzels for Gibson-style headstocks?

any Guitar Center will have the regular Schallers, I just put them on 3 different guitars. the only ones I had to special order were the lefty ones for the other side of my 12 string. those had to come from Germany. so unless you're a lefty or are doing a 12 string retrofit, you should be able to find just about any Schallers you want. especially in NYC.

they are great tuners, I love mine. don't get the copies, get the real thing. it does make a difference.

also I just put Grover mini locking rotos on my new tele, just for a change of pace.

[veliyasin]

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any Guitar Center will have the regular Schallers, I just put them on 3 different guitars.

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I am not talking about the regulars, I am talking about the '80s Schallers with winders which came with some LPCs.

I am getting Sperzels anyways. [img]/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]