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  • #16
    IMHO... the severe detuning could be affecting your guitars ability to produce clear harmonics. After all.. your guitar was designed to be tuned to a key very close to 440 (E). I think the pinch harmonics that alot of the guys are talking about here are the Zack Wylde type on the low E and A strings. I assume you are talking about the higher Lynch/Shredder type pinches on the B and high E strings at the 5th,7th of the G string pinches around the 7th-9th frets etc... Unusual tension and string gauge can be screwing you up. Also, when you pinch with a locking trem you are probably pulling the string while you pinch which is pulling the bridge forward a little and also messing with the guitars ability to produce correct overtones and harmonics.
    Different strings will also affect pinches. I would suggest you try a set of GHS Boomers or D'addario XL's. I have had great success with both of these brands. GHS is probably better than D'addario for the heavy gauges.
    The Zack Wylde heavy set might do it for you.

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    • #17
      Thanks again!

      Actually, it's the Zakk-style harmonics on the 5th and 6th strings that don't come through for me (with this particular setup). I get them just fine on my other guitars, of which one is tuned to E with 010-046 (Ernie Ball), and the other to D, also with 010-046 (D'Addario).

      This one, tuned to D with Ernie Ball 011-048 feels a bit too loose to play on, and lacking in harmonics. I think that maybe the strings are bad somehow? I will try with a D'Addario 011-052 set next. Or GHS if I can find them. The Zakk sets are a little too heavy bottom for me, plus none of the stores in my area have them.

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      • #18
        Just practise a little, and I think it won't be a problem for you. I used to have 12-56 strings in D, and I nailed harmonics on thicker strings easier. It's cuz I practised that the most.

        So all about practise...rock on!

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        • #19
          I really don't think it's all about practice in this case, because I've been playing for the odd 15 years or so, so I know how to make these pinch harmonics. There's something about these strings that just won't let the harmonics out. But I will try a 011-052 set and let you guys know what's happening.

          Thanks for the suggestion anyway, it's much appreciated! :cheers:

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          • #20
            That's surprising because, I detune to C with 10-46's and I always thought that it's much more easier to get pinch harmonics with this setup. Also they sound much more better...
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            • #21
              Hmm, strange..... Could be your tone pot might be flakey since normally if you roll your tone pot all the way back, it is harder to catch a lot of the pinch harmonics. Maybe the thicker strings are causing your pickup to pull on the strings more pulling them out of wack.

              Matt

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              • #22
                I have found for me personally that the thinner the strings I use, the more awsome pinch harmonics I can get. You guys use some swerious tree trunks for strings I use 9-42 and 9-46, the latter for Drop D on a short scale guitar. Jack.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by OnlineStageGear
                  Hmm, strange..... Could be your tone pot might be flakey since normally if you roll your tone pot all the way back, it is harder to catch a lot of the pinch harmonics.
                  That's interesting...except this guitar doesn't have a tone pot.
                  One of the first things I do is take that off.

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