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  • Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

    Does anyone know if Gotoh - or any other firm - makes a direct drop-in locking tuner replacement for the standard Gotohs on USA Select Jacksons?

    I'm thinking of possibly swapping out the hardware on a string-through J/C. In the process, I'd like to replace the standard Gotohs with locking tuners. But I'd only consider it if this can be done without drilling any additional holes.

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    Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

    The Gotoh locking tuners are a direct replacement for the Jackson tuners except for the fact that they only come with the oval shaped knobs. The factory Jackson tuners were Gotohs with the Schaller style knob. All you have to do is put your knobs on the Gotohs and you're all set. If Gotoh offers their locking tuners with the Schaller style knobs I'm not aware of it.
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    • #3
      Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

      Ah bummer. Hardware swap = thinking of changing the color, so the old knobs won't work here. Oh well. Thanks for the info. anyway.

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      • #4
        Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

        Yeah I know how ya feel.....plus the Schallers have a different screw hole placement so you really can't use them. It is a bummer for sure. Hey, if money isn't a problem you could always buy a set of both and you'd be in there!
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        • #5
          Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

          gotoh with a schaller knob like these?
          http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/G...ob_Tuners.html

          or these

          http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/G...ob_Tuners.html
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          • #6
            Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

            The first ones are 3 per side and have the large knob. The second ones are 6 in line and have the small knob. Either way those aren't locking tuners so what the fuck does it matter???? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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            • #7
              Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

              well fuck me for offering up a suggestion! fuckin people. did you even think about making a fucking phone call and asking for a sample knob to test fit on machine heads that will suit your purposes. probably fucking not. companies give out samples of their shit all the time. oh well what the fuck do i know.
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              • #8
                Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                Somebody needs a



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                • #9
                  Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                  What Ron said!!! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
                  Hey buzzsaw, didn't you notice the little laughing smiley??? It's those imoticons that make everything ok. Sorry if you've had a bad day. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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                  • #10
                    Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                    shreddermon, I can't tell you where to buy the locking tuners in the US (I'm in Germany), but I can tell you which part you exactly need.


                    You need Gotoh "SG381-07 L MG"
                    It's a direct replacement for Gotoh "SG381-07 L" which are the standard Jackson tuners. The only difference is the Jackson logo. Every parts-dealer should be able to get them for you.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                      [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

                      Thanks again.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                        So, just to clarify, are all Gotoh SG38 Tuners locking tuners? I've been looking at the ones at the Warmoth site to replace the non-locking Jackson ones, but I'll only consider it if I can swap the oval knobs for the rectangle ones I already have.

                        Here's a link to the ones at Warmoth. On the menu on the right, click the "Tuning machines", and it's the second grouping. On that page they list the Schaller tuners as being locking tuners but don't mention the SG38 as being locking [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] .
                        http://www.warmoth.com/common/frames/hardware.htm
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                        • #13
                          Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                          SG38 or SG381 (never noticed any difference) are usually not locking-tuners. Gotoh locking tuners have the addition "MG".

                          Gotoh tuners with the addition "HAPM" are locking tuners too, but these ones also height-adjustable (in case the headstock is not tilted and without string-retainer)

                          The tuning machines from Warmoth are the non-locking version. The tuners from Stewmac in the links above are also non-locking.

                          once more the Gotoh parts numbers:
                          "SG381-07 L" are the standard Jackson tuners
                          "SG381-07 L MG" are the same tuners, but locking
                          the only difference is, that they have the Gotoh logo on the back, instead of the Jackson logo.

                          [ March 01, 2004, 11:51 PM: Message edited by: busdriver ]

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                          • #14
                            Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                            Wow. Thanks busdriver!

                            Is the "L" for left-handed, though? Or does it stand for something else? They're going on a right-handed guitar.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Locking Tuners - Direct Replacement for J/C Gotohs?

                              Originally posted by mm2002:
                              Hey buzzsaw, didn't you notice the little laughing smiley??? It's those imoticons that make everything ok. Sorry if you've had a bad day. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
                              <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He's just upset because he's now like 400 pounds and the velcro on his shoes stopped working and he doesn't know how to tie regular laces! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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