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  • #1

    New/Different guitar wiring?

    Ok, we all know that Tone knobs use a capacitor, but has anyone experimented with other "off the shelf" (i.e. Radio Shack) components such as resistors, higher/lower rated capacitors than standard, Op Amps, and whatnot? Not necessarily building boards like Jackson's active circuits, but just replacing (or adding) one or two extra components to a standard guitar harness?

    Anyone ever figure out a way to get power into a guitar for an active circuit through the guitar cable **without** getting electrocuted?

    Newc
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  • #2
    Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

    For getting power in the guitar I would use XLR cables. they have one wire more than normal guitar cables so you can use them for powering active circuits. I personally don't like this as guitar electronics don't need much power, batteries last for years...

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    • #3
      Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

      Actually I'm thinking more along the lines of non-standard guitar electronics [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

      Newc
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      • #4
        Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

        Originally posted by Newc:
        Actually I'm thinking more along the lines of non-standard guitar electronics [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

        Newc
        <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, what about this one:
        http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=15%2D2163

        For real high gain [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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        • #5
          Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

          Won't fit in an Ontario route [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

          Newc
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          • #6
            Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

            Different value capacitors will change the bandwidth you send to ground when you turn the tone knob. When you roll off tone, what you are doing is sending a portion of your signal to ground. The capacitor regulates which freqs get grounded. Any more electronic components could do nothing but subtract from your signal, unless they had power behind them. Theoretically, if you ran power into a capacitor through a potentiometer and into the signal, you would have a mid-boost(or treble boost, or whatnot). If you add a bunch of reisitors and capacitors, you can make an on-board active EQ, like the Stingray bass. As for sending power through the cable, with an XLR cable you can find a phantom power unit and send power that way, or if you have a unit custom built you can send power through it. The problems with that is that unless you run that unit in-line your guitar will be useless. If it breaks, your guitar is useless. Also it needs to have power itself. If it had a 9V battery, you may as well have the battery onboard. If it ran on wall current it would need a transformer, and that would add noise to your signal. You could run it on 9V power from a pedal power unit, like the VHT Valvulator I or the VoodooLabs pedal power unit. Once the thing was built, you would most likely have noise issues that had to be troubleshooted. Is it possible? Yes, it is. Is it practical? Not really.

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            • #7
              Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

              Thanks [img]graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

              Is it possible to convert one side of a 500K push/pull pot to 250K with a capacitor or resistor wired to that side?

              Newc
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              • #8
                Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

                The Predator and 3DR have a .0047 capacitor and a 1 meg thing, which I think is a resistor. It looks like a little tiny fuse with colored stripes. It may be a cap in different packaging but I don't know.

                Chuck

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                • #9
                  Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

                  If it's a fairly big round thing (colored stripes) it's a capacitor - if it's a fairly small hourglass-ish thing, it's a resistor.

                  Newc
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                  • #10
                    Re: New/Different guitar wiring?

                    It's the smaller one so it is a resistor.

                    Chuck

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