Pickup Info needed

[scotty]

I have been wanting to changes the pups on a project I have working on. I have also been reading a lot of the stuff posted in the tech section this morning. I have compared pups in Model series guitars I have and there are very noticeable differences in them. (not all stock pups)

I know fellow members have compared the J-80 to a Super Distortion, but I don't hear it. The specs are very similar. I have a tech sheet for the J-series pups when did the M-series come around and is there any tech sheets on them available? On the J-series pups what do the letters stand for after the number? J-90 vs. J-90c and so forth.

Can one effectively compare pickups via tech specs? I know that all the major manufactures have their specs on their websites. Everyone has their own opinion on what pups they like and dis-like, so I don't want to go there. I really like the Super Distortion and the Super 3. I have a Model 3 I was wanting to put a Super 2 & 3 into. I really want to check that out.

Is there a question here, yeah a few. I guess I was wondering if anybody has any links for any good info on understanding pickups and making good choices when upgrading. I found this: http://www.till.com/articles/PickupResponse/index.html
But it doesn't cover some of the stuff talked about in another thread about resistance vs output.

Sorry I was so long winded.

[ADR]

scotty: J90"C"= ceramic

On the Semour Duncan site,( I know were talking about Jackson Pups) they have sound bites as well as a nice description,output (icons, if its hot,cool etc) but they also explain the in & outs. I like that the have a "Bass-Mid-Treb" and use #'s accordingly next to each Pup so I can say compare a Custom 5 to a JB,look at the.

[Sunbane]

I know fellow members have compared the J-80 to a Super Distortion, but I don't hear it. The specs are very similar. I have a tech sheet for the J-series pups when did the M-series come around and is there any tech sheets on them available? On the J-series pups what do the letters stand for after the number? J-90 vs. J-90c and so forth.

N = Neck
B = Bridge
C = "Ceramic" (these have a ceramic magnet insteadn of an alnico one)

I have a J-80C in my Model 6, and I don't think it is particularly similar to the DD. The Duncan has more output for one thing, and doesn't sound as...thick?...as the J-80C. I also feel that the J-80C may have more emphasis in the upper mids, but I'm not entirely sure on that (I have them in different axes, and I don't feel like swapping them around at this point).

Other JCFers have described the J-80C more as a cross between a JB and a Duncan Custom.

[DonP]

I have a J-80C in my Model 6, and I don't think it is particularly similar to the DD.

Sunbane,

He said Super Distortion, as in DiMarzio. I almost made the same mistake, as we don't here much about the Super Distortion any more.

[dg]

Scotty, there's a wealth of good info on the Duncan site. This page here is pretty good without being overly technical:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/choosing-installing/how_to_pick_a_pickup.pdf

IMO, one of the most useful specs is resonant peak. Using that, the basic EQ specs, and output numbers really helps, but there's no substitute for trial & error. Sometimes you think you've got it all figured out, you get a new guitar & drop in a pickup you're sure will work, and it just doesn't sound as awesome as expected. Messing around with different pickups with different woods & types of construction really helps.

[ADR]

Found this on the Duncan site as well:http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones

[scotty]

thanks for all the good info. Here is an example of what I was calling M-series pups. http://cgi.ebay.com/Jackson-Humbucke...QQcmdZViewItem
When did these come are around and is the a PDF on them?

[dg]

Pretty sure those are Kent Armstrong OEM pickups.

Here are some specs. These are newer models with adjustable pole pieces, but I bet the magnets, resistance, etc. are the same:

http://muinstrum.com/pickups-and-pickup-covers/64.html

-edit- I just read the translated descriptions:

"This is a first-rate work high-pitched bring in humbucker at a slayer damage. Great Bang against the go against. Works intimately in a partner off, or as a make out place congratulate to the M215K. 4 music director wiring with respect to curl tapping options."

[scotty]

Is there a newer version of this? http://audiozone.dk/CatalogScans/Jac...87/index.htm#8
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http://audiozone.dk/CatalogScans/JackElec1988/index.htm

[Sunbane]

Great Bang against the go against.

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