What capacitor for tone pot

[Budman68]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

Actually the capacitor should be about .022mf at 100V for guitar. Carvin.com sells them for a dollar a piece. You can try different "values" of capacitors to suit your needs but this would be a good start.

[toejam]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

Originally posted by Immortal:
Can anyone answer my question about resistor?

Thanks.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I had a .047mf capacitor put in my Dinky one time... it was dark sounding, as those are usually for basses. I went down to a .022mf cap and it brightened it up. Anything lower than that will also make things a little brighter sounding. Hope that helps. There was a site that explained the difference in tone caps, but I can't find it at the moment. I'll see if I can find it a little later.

[toejam]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

Here's one site I had bookmarked. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] http://www.guitarnuts.com/index.php
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/tonerange.php

[Immortal]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

So that means you can solder different values, which means different results? Interesting.

When the pot is opened to the maximum, the resistor gets bypassed, no matter what value it is, right?

[Budman68]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

I would say yes but better quality pots will give you better results.

[Immortal]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

I mostly use Epiphone pots, which are very fine to me.

Anyone has the experience with Epi pots?

[toejam]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

Originally posted by Immortal:
When the pot is opened to the maximum, the resistor gets bypassed, no matter what value it is, right?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't think it really gets bypassed. I'm not too sure on it technically, but I know there is some effect on it. If you have a guitar with only one volume control, adding a tone control to it, even if it's opened up all the way, the tone control will still add some kind of load to the sound and make it a tiny bit warmer somehow. Hopefully somebody with a better understanding of how that works can help out, since I really don't know much about electronics.

[Budman68]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

I agree Joe, but it seems the better the quality of the pot, the better the output of signal. Is that what you have found?

[charvelguy]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

He's right. Anything in line from the pickup will add resistance and alter tonality to a degree. Some claim to 'hear' differences in adding or taking away a pot obviously as this was a philosophy primarily used by EVH. I personally think the differences are slight to moderate but the type of capacitor and it's value can certainly make a difference as can the quality of electronics. I think Epi stuff is Korean made.

[Twisteramps]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

When you have a capacitor in a passive guitar circuit, usually it's wired as a tone control, which is going to bleed off high frequencies. If you were in the USA, I'd say go to radio shack and get a bunch and go to town seeing what you like. They do NOT have to 100v.... that's way overkill for a guitar signal. Anything 10v and above should work great... I'd say even smaller than 10v, but I can't remember running across any lower voltage than that, at least in the values you'd want for a guitar project.

You can also get different composition capacitors - some guys like vintage paper in oil type (high $$$$) or ceramic, or metal film/polyester. Personally, I never use the tone controls on my guitars anyways, and some are modded where the pot is totally bypassed when it's off. You have to take the pot apart and modify it.

Another thing you can do is wire a small cap on your volume control to keep your guitar from getting muddy as you turn the volume down... I have done this on a few guitars. Works great when you're doing the one channel amp thing!

Pete

BTW Fett, quit fucking with the guy. I'm sure his posts are easier to read in this language than yours would be in his. Did he piss you off in another thread or something? Otherwise you just look like a 54 year old ass.

[charvelguy]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

yeah, I tried translating his post, I didn't get to far. So I agree. This is a place for anyone of all nationalities if they're a guitarist/musician and in some cases even if you are not one.

This implies this , yes indeed are eni undress ozkogledni kid , whom watch whenever uniquely upon I your prat , upon I ours yourself then thingummy heed. Bushman yourself thrust in within pizdo.

[Immortal]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

Very interesting. I have always thought that tone pots are bypassed when there is zero resistance.

That is also stated on the page that toejam posted the link of. Im theory it should be that way, as far as I remember technics in school.

Also, I think you have to have an ear to notice the difference.

[Immortal]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

Originally posted by charvelguy:
yeah, I tried translating his post, I didn't get to far. So I agree. This is a place for anyone of all nationalities if they're a guitarist/musician and in some cases even if you are not one.

This implies this , yes indeed are eni undress ozkogledni kid , whom watch whenever uniquely upon I your prat , upon I ours yourself then thingummy heed. Bushman yourself thrust in within pizdo.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Uh, that is a really bad translation. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Some of the Slovene words cannot be translated directly into English, but you have to arrange them a bit, so they can meet the English terminology and phrases.

[Immortal]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

Oh, let me post another question.

I have always used logarithmic pots for volume and tone knobs. I saw some 25k linear pots selling that they are suitable with active circuits.

Am I the only one that thinks that log pots are used for volumes and tones?
Sure, also the linear can be used, but between min and max there are not mid values. That's what I have heard and learned.

Tell me, if I am wrong.

Do active circuits (like EMG) uses the exact pots like passives? I know that resistance varies, but I am wondering if passive circuit uses log, then the active should use also log, right?

[charvelguy]

Re: What capacitor for tone pot

well, you are right. The tone effect of the tone pot does get bypassed at zero resistance.. but just having the pot in the chain is claimed to have a tonal drain for some. I guess it's a tradeoff.. I prefer them on some guitars and on others, not.