Why you never deal with Strangletooth...!

[VitaminG]

FWIW~ Pat and Kev

get a haircut, hippies

hey Pat!

[wulfe13]

WHAT'S UP PAT??? Damn, I just got in on this thread... took awhile to read it all.

I hope you stick around bro! I lost your number when I switched phones, PM me sometime, maybe we can get together soon. I got a kid due next month, can ya believe that? LOL....

[AK47]

No, but a dealer would not have put up with any bull shit either. They probably would have just sold the guitar out from under you long ago.

So this is Ok to take the swag?

Speculation is all small claims court is. It is not OK in Criminal court.

Also I was not speculating I cut and pasted were it stated he took the swag thats a confession.

So everyones OK with the taking of swag it sounds like?

[lerxstcat]

So this is Ok to take the swag?

Speculation is all small claims court is. It is not OK in Criminal court.

Also I was not speculating I cut and pasted were it stated he took the swag thats a confession.

So everyones OK with the taking of swag it sounds like?

Nope; look back, you'll see that I said the swag should've stayed with the guitar. I don't recall but I thought someone agreed with that.

So Fish was here Monday night and signed on long enough to read this thread, then signed off without posting. I wonder what's going on in the YouThinkYourFish household?

[lerxstcat]

And, here you go:

I personally don't think the swag should be separated from the guitars since that would devalue the guitar in a subsequent sale to another JCFer. I can understand the frustration with the wait but everything that came with the guitar from Jackson should be kept with it.

The condition of this guitar makes that moot, but had it arrived in mint condition it would be worth less, and to say the plate with Robbin's sig is only worth $25, well I don't think that's true. It would've been better to send Ian a refund and sell it elsewhere, complete with swag, and keep it all together as the JCF run was meant to be.

[Strangletooth]

Hey Wulfe ( and G ), good to see you to!!! I think I still have your number... 314.223.xxxx? I'll give you a buzz sometime, Congrad's on the new addition!!! Best of luck!

You guys really need to be be smarter than the piece of plastic you're expressing your opinions with, and read between the lines as it pertains to the plate/swag...

I was part of a large shit storm when someone here tried to sell their BR without the plate and/or swag, if you recall that fiasco... My position on it hasn't changed and I think it's perfectly clear. And if you still don't get it perhaps Dr Phil can dumb it down for you.

Legally speaking? Pfftt.... Not even going there...

Pat

[lerxstcat]

I guess I missed that fiasco, Pat. Would you mind saying what your position was? I'm sure there's no enforceable legality on the swag, I just thought it would be only right to keep the swag with the guitar, that's all. For the next owner if not the one you're selling to today, you know?

[AK47]

It all comes back to ethics and I see only one side that lacks it...

Failure to pick something up thats yours is not unethical its just stupid.

lerxscat I did notice you were the only one that did not agree with the swag taking.
The guy paid for the guitar with everything for full price not part misrepresented merchandise I say.

It all comes back to ethics.

If the store did not pay its insurance on time do you send a goon in there to knock a few 20 dollar things over, things only worth 20 dollars nothing else? Thats cool?

[Strangletooth]

It all comes back to ethics and I see only one side that lacks it...

Failure to pick something up thats yours is not unethical its just stupid.

lerxscat I did notice you were the only one that did not agree with the swag taking.
The guy paid for the guitar with everything for full price not part misrepresented merchandise I say.

It all comes back to ethics.

If the store did not pay its insurance on time do you send a goon in there to knock a few 20 dollar things over, things only worth 20 dollars nothing else? Thats cool?

"Obviously", you haven't read the last few pages, if you see only one side that lacks ethics.... Either that, or you're just "not very bright"

And Rich, I'm sure if you ask around, you'll find the info you're looking for...

Pat

[AK47]

Just once more, (Forgive me I am slow and not very bright)
The taking of the swag was on the up and up and no one but me or lerxstcat has a problem with that...
... maybe I am going crazy.

[AK47]

Wanted to add a new post without editing.

Fact: Dude paid for the guitar $2500 as advertised with all swag.

Fact: Dude did not pick up guitar for a while

Fact: Police actually had to be called and not by pat

Fact: Guitar was destroyed (Somewhere in time)

Fact: No swag written confession swag was taken.

Thats it no more no less so everyone is OK with this?

[Strangletooth]

You're forgiven...

Pat

[Strangletooth]

Wanted to add a new post without editing.

Fact: Dude paid for the guitar $2500 as advertised with all swag.

Fact: Dude did not pick up guitar for a while

Fact: Police actually had to be called and not by pat

Fact: Guitar was destroyed (Somewhere in time)

Fact: No swag written confession swag was taken.

Thats it no more no less so everyone is OK with this?

You're missing a lot of facts/details in the mix, if you're going to summarize, do it right or not at all... Again, you're forgiven...

Pat

[AK47]

Not seeking forgiveness just a statement that.

"I Pat (lastname) took the swag that was advertised with the guitar and did not ship it. I am O.K. with this and stand by my desicion."

[AK47]

Apparantley most of the other members are cool with you doing this I am just rubbing the point in as I personally am appauld of the BS cosigning.

I just want to make sure no ones mincing words. I am not wanting to name call or start beefs.

The damaged guitar can never be proven how when where just that what was advertised was taken out of spite.