It all comes back to ethics and I see only one side that lacks it...
Failure to pick something up thats yours is not unethical its just stupid.
lerxscat I did notice you were the only one that did not agree with the swag taking.
The guy paid for the guitar with everything for full price not part misrepresented merchandise I say.
It all comes back to ethics.
If the store did not pay its insurance on time do you send a goon in there to knock a few 20 dollar things over, things only worth 20 dollars nothing else? Thats cool?
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I guess I missed that fiasco, Pat. Would you mind saying what your position was? I'm sure there's no enforceable legality on the swag, I just thought it would be only right to keep the swag with the guitar, that's all. For the next owner if not the one you're selling to today, you know?
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Hey Wulfe ( and G ), good to see you to!!! I think I still have your number... 314.223.xxxx? I'll give you a buzz sometime, Congrad's on the new addition!!! Best of luck!
You guys really need to be be smarter than the piece of plastic you're expressing your opinions with, and read between the lines as it pertains to the plate/swag...
I was part of a large shit storm when someone here tried to sell their BR without the plate and/or swag, if you recall that fiasco... My position on it hasn't changed and I think it's perfectly clear. And if you still don't get it perhaps Dr Phil can dumb it down for you.
Legally speaking? Pfftt.... Not even going there...
Pat
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And, here you go:
Originally posted by lerxstcat View PostI personally don't think the swag should be separated from the guitars since that would devalue the guitar in a subsequent sale to another JCFer. I can understand the frustration with the wait but everything that came with the guitar from Jackson should be kept with it.
The condition of this guitar makes that moot, but had it arrived in mint condition it would be worth less, and to say the plate with Robbin's sig is only worth $25, well I don't think that's true. It would've been better to send Ian a refund and sell it elsewhere, complete with swag, and keep it all together as the JCF run was meant to be.
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Originally posted by AK47 View PostSo this is Ok to take the swag?
Speculation is all small claims court is. It is not OK in Criminal court.
Also I was not speculating I cut and pasted were it stated he took the swag thats a confession.
So everyones OK with the taking of swag it sounds like?
So Fish was here Monday night and signed on long enough to read this thread, then signed off without posting. I wonder what's going on in the YouThinkYourFish household?
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Originally posted by StukaJU87 View PostNo, but a dealer would not have put up with any bull shit either. They probably would have just sold the guitar out from under you long ago.
Speculation is all small claims court is. It is not OK in Criminal court.
Also I was not speculating I cut and pasted were it stated he took the swag thats a confession.
So everyones OK with the taking of swag it sounds like?
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WHAT'S UP PAT??? Damn, I just got in on this thread... took awhile to read it all.
I hope you stick around bro! I lost your number when I switched phones, PM me sometime, maybe we can get together soon. I got a kid due next month, can ya believe that? LOL....
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I bet he is over 6 ft by the time he is 15. He got the tall genes frome my wifes side of the family. Her Mom is 5 '11. her Dad was well over 6 ft. Her brothers are both over 6 ft. She is 5'7" AND I AM 5'8" SO HE HAS A MONTH OR @ BEFORE HE IS LOOKING EYE TO EYE WITH ME!!! lol.
Me thinks I might have hijacked the thread.... ooops.
heh heh...
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The only answer is a compromise, Ian should collect from FedEx claim, Pat can send me the swag, and I will buy the relic from Ian at a greatly reduced (1/3?) price
Hope this gets worked out to everyone's favor. And I hope it turns out like a big three's company episode, just a big misunderstanding all the way around.
This year has started out with a lot of bad deals and name calling, or is that every Jan/Feb?
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I personally don't think the swag should be separated from the guitars since that would devalue the guitar in a subsequent sale to another JCFer. I can understand the frustration with the wait but everything that came with the guitar from Jackson should be kept with it.
The condition of this guitar makes that moot, but had it arrived in mint condition it would be worth less, and to say the plate with Robbin's sig is only worth $25, well I don't think that's true. It would've been better to send Ian a refund and sell it elsewhere, complete with swag, and keep it all together as the JCF run was meant to be.
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Yeah, everyone thinks that my 12 year old daughter is 16. But, they also think my 19 year old is 15. So, I guess it balances out.
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No. I was saying he is taller than you...
I have a client that is 5'4". A year ago he walks into my building. My kid is there and he walks up to the client and tells him that in a year or so he is going to be as tall or taller than said client... You can imagine the laughter coming from everyone that was in the room. Glad he had a sense of humor.
Is it me or are the kids these days just taller now? Must be all the crap they put in food I guess....Last edited by Firebird V; 01-23-2007, 01:09 PM.
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Originally posted by Firebird V View PostYeah it does go by fast. My oldest turned 8 in October. He is so freakin' tall. he is 52" already.
TTYL.
Pat
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