Why you never deal with Strangletooth...!

[Firebird V]

yep. i still got them. i still have the one esp firebird that i was going to sell you still too... maybe your interested? you'll have to take delivery on it right away though... heh heh heh... get it?

hope the kids are doing well. did you ever get the hole in your boat fixed?

[Strangletooth]

Shit, where'd my post go?!?

Anyway, Hey Chris!!! Still got the birds?!? I still want one, Dave I had the shiznit for Birds man, those reverse CS's were the BOMB!!! Matched pair I believe?


Pat

[Firebird V]

Personally, I don't think either guys would do that to *THAT* guitar (in particular). If Pat packed it like it they were originally shipped to us then it is easy for me to see how this damage could have occured.

Look at the pictures, the case was unlatched. That means that guitar could rattle like crazy in the box. That also means the whammy bar and whatever else was in the compartment could rattle around and scratch the shit out of the guitar. I know about this from first hand experience being on the receiving end on of a guitar that shipped with a loose bar in the case.

I think Pat should have included the plate and other case candy because it belongs with the guitar - that was a petty thing to do. At the same time, I understand his frustration with Ian.

Hey. I was thinking. My JCF02 had a latch that would pop open a lot. I got it that way. It even came shipped to me originally from Kevin Easton opened. And it didn't have that much packing in it either as Pat had stated before too.

I think we should blame Kevin Easton for this.


What do you guys think?
































J/K.



And again.... Hi PAT! Stick around.

[Strangletooth]

That was one helluva drunken stuper that night.... Ahhhhh, the many faces of NAMM...

Claim? Yes, I would have to think there was.
Were the police called after the shipping? Not that I'm aware of.

And good to meet you to Dave!

Pat

[lerxstcat]

I have another theory as to what happened to the guitar. Pat chimed in and well he seems convincing .

I think Ians wife coulda busted it up. If she hated him buying guitars that bad maybe she went postal on it after discovering it? Just a thought

This occurred to me too. Also, you know, if for any reason she got to it before Ian did, it could be that she wasted it and Ian really thought Pat did it!
If this has been an ongoing problem between them for years, as it sounds like it is, that's quite possible. Destroy the guitar and let the seller or the shipper take the blame. Classic passive-aggressive behavior and if her hubby's rep got ruined over it, maybe he wouldn't have access to buy any more of these!

I know, we already have one Dr. Phil on the thread!

[Mayday]

FWIW~ Pat and Kev

[Mayday]

I am just saying, Admins here for the most part treat everyone with respect.

I treat you with respect? I'll hafta rectify that

[fett]

Bob Newhart had a great act. He was a shrink and had a person that kept talking about the "Problem". She kept talking about it and what she should do. His advice was, "STOP IT!!!!!"

[quakana]

Oh yeah...and how rude of me. Hey Pat...I'm Dave. Nice to meetcha!
You sound like me..stating whats on your mind, my close friends and loved ones often refer to it as diareaha of the mouth I say whatever I want when I want with no remorse....dont like kissing ass and never hold back saying something because its not "right" Not many people do that and I respect the fact that you do. We should start a club or something :ROTF: Anyway my question has always been if this was shipping damage why was there never a claim filed? You have answered that and stated that Ian had to because it was his acct....so my question is still...why was a claim never filed? Also were the police notified of the damage ? Anyway, good luck and why not stick around here? You might add some spice to the place

[Strangletooth]

and i wasn't accusing you, just simply saying that your saying more than you need to .. the fact that you're spilling your guts which are filled with hate makes it look like a confession ...
... i'll ignore the other infantile comments

Dr Phil, If you knew me, you'd know that I've never been short of words, and I've always spoken my mind. I have absolutely no problem with posting what I feel , how I feel, etc. I have never shied away from posting details, rants, calling a spade a spade, etc so this is nothing out of the norm for me. This issue is certainly not any different from any previosu tangents.

Imagine for a moment, you walking into a forum you haven't been in a year or more, and seeing numerous pages of the posts above? And how does that make "you" feel Dr Phil?

Still don't get it?

Since we're all on the conspiracy theory trip. The only way that thing was trashed in shipping is if the guitar actually came out of the box/case at some point.

And Yard Dawg, you raise a few interesting points, but I can tell you this in my defense, I was on the phone with Officer Cates ( at the same time ) when FedEx eventually came to pick this up and told "him" he could come get the guitar anytime, since I was being threatened with being arrested at the time, if I didn't ship an item I was paid for... Officer Cates is the one that gave me/FedEx the address that the guitar was to be shipped to, this was on SPEAKERPHONE in my driveway.

Pat

[atomic charvel guy]

yard Dawg has a definite possiblilty, i was in a marriage that was filled with anger at my hobby, but I never snuck a guitar by anyone, i just said ship it fed ex. sat. delivery, just get it here. I was in the doghouse already for everything else I had done ,real or imagined, so i bought whatever I wanted.
But it is not out of the question at all.

[quakana]

Even so, I guess neither of the above are impossible, and I've never seen that level of damage from shipping....

The only way IMO that thing was damaged in shipping is if it fell out of a plane or a truck on the highway.
Not sure how the tips would be all banged up and all that damage to the headstock and busted strings if it was in the case even if the latches were left open. It only has so much room to move around while inside that box. Alos fed ex will not ship the guitar if it lloks to them that the packaging is inadequate

[neilli]

If well step back from the emotive 'damaging a rare and beautiful instrument' issue for a second:- Ultimately, I can't see what either Pat or Ian has to gain by wrecking the guitar:

- If Ian broke the guitar, that's helluva risk, cos Pat could have taken pics of it packed for shipping and being collected. That would have just left him with a wrecked guitar which he's paid for....

- If Pat broke the guitar out of spite, then that could have just landed him in trouble from the start as the FedEx guys or the police could have checked it prior to collection.

Even so, I guess neither of the above are impossible, and I've never seen that level of damage from shipping....

[yard dawg]

I have another theory as to what happened to the guitar. Pat chimed in and well he seems convincing .

I think Ians wife coulda busted it up. If she hated him buying guitars that bad maybe she went postal on it after discovering it? Just a thought

[fett]

You obviously didn't ignore the comment about anyone who doesn't know anything about these two people should butt out either ...

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