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  • You have told many people they dont have the facts straight I gave you a hard time about taking the swag but I was the only one to point out what looked like paint chips in the case as well.

    What am I missing? ...that he was late at picking up the guitar so that justifies theft or non refund and the cops being called?

    I am not looking for name calling or feelings discussion apparantley alot of us are missing a fact can you point it out. I am trying to be objective.

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    • Dude, are you kidding me?!?

      Theft? Do what?!?!?

      Late picking the guitar up?!? Again, are you kidding me?

      Go back and read my inital posts on this issue, I think it's right there, in black and white...

      Not looking for name calling? Go back and read "your" post...

      All of your answers are in my previous posts, take a few minutes and go back and review again...



      Pat
      Don't blame Congress or the President - blame yourselves. ~Newc

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      • Originally posted by Firebird V View Post
        Hope Val is better and you got all your other shit worked out Bill.
        Thanks bro, still taking care of all that as we speak..sigh..but thanks!!

        again..Wassup Pat!

        Bill Z Bub
        "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
        Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

        "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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        • Theft is what is called taking something someone paid for like the swag.

          If he was not late then somehow he made you feel upset so the cops had to be called for the guitar to be shipped.

          That made you feel angry so you took the swag.

          So if someone makes you mad by being late or calling the cops its cool to steal from them or delay in not giving a refund.


          Bam right here...
          Quote....
          5. Basically he fkd me around for well over 6 months, wasted 40+ hrs of MY LIFE waiting for his phantom FedEx pickups, so I in turn fkd him around for 6 months, absolutely!!!! Wouldn't you?!? My payback to Ian was keeping the swag and extras, not trashing this amazing guitar! I figured the swag was worth less than $25 ( keeping ALL sentimental value out of it ) and just a way to say fuck you Ian.... If he wants to press charges for that, go for it.... But he bought a guitar, he was sent a guitar, a mint guitar!

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          • Originally posted by AK47 View Post
            Theft is what is called taking something someone paid for like the swag.

            If he was not late then somehow he made you feel upset so the cops had to be called for the guitar to be shipped.

            That made you feel angry so you took the swag.

            So if someone makes you mad by being late or calling the cops its cool to steal from them or delay in not giving a refund.


            Bam right here...
            Quote....
            5. Basically he fkd me around for well over 6 months, wasted 40+ hrs of MY LIFE waiting for his phantom FedEx pickups, so I in turn fkd him around for 6 months, absolutely!!!! Wouldn't you?!? My payback to Ian was keeping the swag and extras, not trashing this amazing guitar! I figured the swag was worth less than $25 ( keeping ALL sentimental value out of it ) and just a way to say fuck you Ian.... If he wants to press charges for that, go for it.... But he bought a guitar, he was sent a guitar, a mint guitar!

            Bro, I was a Cleveland cop for 13 years..this is NOT a criminal matter whatsoever..

            This is strictly a civil matter ..like Judge Judy and nothing more..
            "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
            Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

            "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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            • Its an ethical matter of course if it was criminal an arrest would be made just what amazes me alot of people are OK with this type of behavior but I will let it go before I piss to many people off.

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              • Originally posted by AK47 View Post
                Its an ethical matter of course if it was criminal an arrest would be made just what amazes me alot of people are OK with this type of behavior but I will let it go before I piss to many people off.

                That is for a judge to decide in a small claims court. Both parties present their case in the civil matter c/w a transaction dispute..it happends everday, all day.

                We are not judges..and by the looks of some responses here..that's a good thing!!!

                I do know all the criminal and civil laws, it's what I did for a long time for a living. In fact my Dept. is still paying me for the rest of my life...which is very nice..
                "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                • Originally posted by Carbuff View Post
                  Thats messed up. Theres no chance that the box got dropped, popped open as well as the case,and the guitar fell out? Then fedex just stuffed it back in and taped it shut again? Id hate to think that someone would do that on purpose.
                  I wouldn't be surprised...I know a few people who worked at UPS and I've seen my guitars being loaded at airports...

                  I got a -84 RR Student a couple of years ago and unfortunately the case wasn't good enough so the guitar could move around a little bit. Somewhere on the road to Sweden from the US someone sat the case down really hard and both wing and tip got damaged.

                  I'm very sad for you and the guitar and you have all my sympathy!
                  Hope it get's sorted out for you!

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                  • I thought I replied Bill, guess not... errrrr (Maybe it was on another thread)

                    Sup? How are things?

                    Been a while aye?
                    How's the Metal Encyclopedia doing?

                    Pat
                    Don't blame Congress or the President - blame yourselves. ~Newc

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                    • Originally posted by AK47 View Post
                      Theft is what is called taking something someone paid for like the swag.

                      If he was not late then somehow he made you feel upset so the cops had to be called for the guitar to be shipped.

                      That made you feel angry so you took the swag.

                      So if someone makes you mad by being late or calling the cops its cool to steal from them or delay in not giving a refund.


                      Bam right here...
                      Quote....
                      5. Basically he fkd me around for well over 6 months, wasted 40+ hrs of MY LIFE waiting for his phantom FedEx pickups, so I in turn fkd him around for 6 months, absolutely!!!! Wouldn't you?!? My payback to Ian was keeping the swag and extras, not trashing this amazing guitar! I figured the swag was worth less than $25 ( keeping ALL sentimental value out of it ) and just a way to say fuck you Ian.... If he wants to press charges for that, go for it.... But he bought a guitar, he was sent a guitar, a mint guitar!
                      There are so many things I could reply to your drivel with, but I'll keep it to a minimum. This is a one way street for you AK, and that's fine, but I for one won't reply to your garbage after this, unless you come up with something new and exciting, you're boring me...

                      Your quote above has been detailed a lot more a few times since that post you "quote", go back and read it all, or isn't your sister around to read to you?

                      "If he wasn't late"? WTF does that mean? Did you not read anything? There's a HUGE difference in being late and blatant inconsideration.

                      Again, go back and read, ALL OF IT, or maybe you're just not smart enough to get it. You're forgiven...

                      Theft I believe is taking something that doesn't belong to you.

                      I guess it's true, you can't fix STOOPID.... At least try to be smarter than the piece of plastic you're using to show your intelligence... I know it's hard, but give it a try.

                      Unless someone posts something new and interesting here, I'm done with this thread. There's only so many ways to explain the same thing, and I believe I've covered them all at this point.

                      Pat
                      Last edited by Strangletooth; 02-01-2007, 08:44 AM.
                      Don't blame Congress or the President - blame yourselves. ~Newc

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                      • Originally posted by AK47 View Post
                        Its an ethical matter of course if it was criminal an arrest would be made just what amazes me alot of people are OK with this type of behavior but I will let it go before I piss to many people off.
                        I'm not OK with Pat keeping the swag. I doubt anyone else here really is either. You keep bringing it up like it's the fucking pivotal issue. It's not. You keep acting like you've got a clue. You don't.
                        I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                        - Newc

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                        • Agreed Tim, and I think I've addressed the issue of the swag, no?

                          Pat
                          Don't blame Congress or the President - blame yourselves. ~Newc

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                          • Pat, why the personal attacks? Stupid? not smart enough? drivel? STOOPID? your sister can read it to you? My 5 yr old reads better than you?

                            If you didnt do it, you didnt do it. Name calling makes you look even more guilty to me than you already do. If thats even possible.
                            Last edited by Shawn; 02-01-2007, 09:09 AM.
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                            • I guess the personal attacks are to, a one way street?

                              Guilty for "holding on to the swag", sure, but not much else Shawn... Believe what you want, it doesn't matter to me... Everyone's entitled..

                              Again, I'm done here...

                              Pat
                              Don't blame Congress or the President - blame yourselves. ~Newc

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                              • Originally posted by AK47 View Post
                                I am not looking for name calling or feelings discussion apparantley alot of us are missing a fact can you point it out. I am trying to be objective.
                                Looks like there's some punctuation missing here.
                                I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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