KISS sinks to an all-time low

[Newc]

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174453

Un-fuckin-believable, yet, there it is.

[m2pmd70]

Wow just wow.

Bet they'd go good with a steamy cup of Dave Mustaine Christmas Blend tho. LMAO

[Shawn Lutz]

why not? Action figures, lunch boxes and now M&M's. Musically I was never really into them altho they have some pretty cool tunes, just not my bag (of M&M's)

[Soap]

I wouldn't be surprised if they had diapers, aerosol spray just about anything really.
Sky is the limit with them.
I'm not surprised at all.

[mr426]

What is wrong with that? You say it's a low, but the truth is they will make more money with that project than we will ever see, so how is that a low? Football players do it with shoes.Nascar drivers do it with tires.Basketball players do it with gum.How is this a bad thing.People says it's dumb, but they laugh all the way to the bank about it...

[Flatpicker]

I just hope that means we will see a commercial where the band is turned into animated M&M's.

That would be kind of cool.

[RacerX]

Maybe they could meet that green M&M chick huh huh huh....

[joelayres]

I don't see a problem with it. If people are willing to buy, why not give them what they want?
I'll bet Gene is laughing all the way to the bank!

[442w30]

I just wish someone would pay to lick my chocolate covered nuts....

[atdguitars]

It's all about marketing and capitalism.. gotta love it. If you don't agree with it don't buy them plain and simple. At least they aren't bankrupt. Gotta hand it to them for constantly finding a way to make money.

[RR666]

the kings of merchendising are at it again

[Endrik]

It's all about marketing and capitalism.. gotta love it. If you don't agree with it don't buy them plain and simple. At least they aren't bankrupt. Gotta hand it to them for constantly finding a way to make money.

maybe you haven't noticed but in this board folks who describe themselves as capitalists are the biggest crybabies when it comes to other people making capital... defending free market in one thread, pouring shit all over Eddie Van Halen in the other for selling expensive gear.

[Vass]

maybe you haven't noticed but in this board folks who describe themselves as capitalists are the biggest crybabies when it comes to other people making capital... defending free market in one thread, pouring shit all over Eddie Van Halen in the other for selling expensive gear.

These are really 2 separate issues- and it's why capitalism goes hand in hand with freedom. Gene's free to pimp the name however he wants, and Newc is free to see it as a crass money grab.

Capitalists aren't obligated to cheer lead every money-making endeavour to avoid having the oh-so-scary "hyporcrite" monicker hung on them.

For example, if Cracker Jacks started putting pieces of the World Trade Center in their products as the "prize", or aborted fetuses, by this standard I'd be a crybaby if I said, "that's fucked up, no more Cracker Jacks for me."

Newc's certainly capable of defending himself, but this sort of nonsense chaps me a bit- Are we defined by our descriptors, to the absolute extreme? "If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly"?

What if the government demanded that all citizens must be given a small shrine in their house dedicated to Jesus, to be paid for by taxpayers? If a socialist said, "What the FUCK is this?" would they be a hypocrite, since all were being given something equal, from the public weal?

This sort of silly absolutist view of the opposition comes from alot of sloganeering and not a hell of alot of depth of analysis. Newc isn't suggesting the government stop KISS from whoring itself on candy bags. He's just saying he thinks it's a little crass and presumably he won't be purchasing any KISS M&M's.

All that aside- It's not like there's a shitload of artistic integrity that KISS is throwing out the window here. They are what they are, and they do what they do, and they do it well.

[Endrik]

These are really 2 separate issues- and it's why capitalism goes hand in hand with freedom.

If you want them to take as 2 different issues (free market vs. capitalism as a "human characteristic" and not an economic situation) then no they don't go hand in hand. Fucking blolsheviks were hard core capitalists. They wanted money for themselves not for the others. They removed the competition, used propaganda to fill the heads of common folks with marxist mambo-jambo and all the cash went straight into their pockets.

Capitalists aren't obligated to cheer lead every money-making endeavour to avoid having the oh-so-scary "hyporcrite" monicker hung on them.

yeah, since being a hypocrite is not a bad thing anymore... me making cash.. good good very good.... you making cash.. bad bad very bad

For example, if Cracker Jacks started putting pieces of the World Trade Center in their products as the "prize", or aborted fetuses, by your analysis of the situation I'd be a crybaby if I said, "that's fucked up, no more Cracker Jacks for me."

You'd definitely be a crybaby if you'd keep repeating that same shit all the time. Look at the EVH threads and the same names always keep popping up.

Newc's certainly capable of defending himself of course, but this sort of nonsense chaps me a bit- Are we defined by our descriptors, to the absolute extreme? "If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly"?

"our descriptors"??? who was talking about you anyway?

What if the government demanded that all citizens must be given a small shrine in their house dedicated to Jesus, to be paid for by taxpayers? If a socialist said, "What the FUCK is this?" would they be a hypocrite, since all were being given something equal, from the public weal?

Why go around corners? Many forms of socialism are hypocritical anyway. What's the point talking about some shrine and a mexican kid?

But some would be pretty happy though as Jesus was a proto-communist

All that aside- It's not like there's a shitload of artistic integrity that KISS is throwing out the window here. They are what they are, and they do what they do, and they do it well.

exactly, that's what KISS has always done.

[Grandturk]

Wow - this thread spiraled out of control in record time. I'm just really glad I don't like KISS.

Does anyone know if Gene has the rights to "Knights in Satan's Service?" That would be a killer power death metal band name, or at the very least album or song title.