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  • Weather and Guitars-Myth?

    The DKMGT has been at ready position on my garage wall for over a year.
    Meaning-it doesn't go in the comfy house, always ready to play. My garage is at more outdoor conditions temp-wise than the others.
    But it is nearly always in tune, the neck gives me no trouble (never adjusted it since I bought it).
    Sometimes I think that temp changes and guitars changing shape-requiring truss adjustments, retuning etc. is a myth.

    The only time I have ever noticed a serious change was one time I related when a tornado came close, the barometric pressure changed so rapidly I thought something was screwed with my Model 88. Next day it was just fine, back to normal.

    This is not the only guitar I have just let hang on the garage wall, and never really had any problem with exposure from below freezing to 100 degree weather.
    Sure, some tuning is required, but certainly nothing outside the norm.

    I know I'm nuts...what is your experience with this?

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    My guitars are not kept in a garage or basement and I still have to adjust the truss rod twice a year. It is certainly no myth. Although sometimes I just wait the climate changes out and don't adjust, depending on the guitar and how much I use it.
    "I would have banned you for taking part in hijacking and derailing a thread when you could have started your own thread about your own topic." - Unknown

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    • #3
      humidity can be no bueno, salt air is definitely no bueno.
      dramatic changes in temperature in a short time can headache it's way onto a guitar.
      i ended up always putting them away in their cases in the end when not playing them than leaving them out for show all the time. plus when in their cases, i wouldn't get caught talking to them like i did all the time. i was almost put into a nut house.
      Not helping the situation since 1965!

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      • #4
        I find humidity affects them more than temperature, but I've never had to re-adjust the truss rod. I just put up with the slight difference for the summer months. It's really not noticeable unless you look for it.
        Scott

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spivonious View Post
          I find humidity affects them more than temperature, but I've never had to re-adjust the truss rod. I just put up with the slight difference for the summer months. It's really not noticeable unless you look for it.
          It gets oppressively humid here in the summer and bone dry in the winter. Not good.
          "I would have banned you for taking part in hijacking and derailing a thread when you could have started your own thread about your own topic." - Unknown

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Musician78 View Post
            It gets oppressively humid here in the summer and bone dry in the winter. Not good.
            Same here, but lesser.
            Is it because I don't adjust the strings to be insanely close?
            I can't stand a high action, but I fret and pick hard enough that I like a medium action.

            I suspect if I went for broke-very close-then things would change quickly.

            And quick changes.
            That might have something to do with it.
            The guitar just goes with the flow, no real quick changes.
            It just stays there and takes it, and by the time I pick it up-then either the portable heater is going, or the A/C.
            When the human part is comfortable, then it (me) starts playing.

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            • #7
              I try to have my action as low as possible. I suspect that has a lot to do with it.
              "I would have banned you for taking part in hijacking and derailing a thread when you could have started your own thread about your own topic." - Unknown

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              • #8
                Change of seasons here in the northeast requires minor tweaks to a couple of my necks. Most are fine all year long, though - set and forget. Every piece of wood is different - some just deal with weather changes better than others.

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                • #9
                  My oiled necks all need about a 1/8 of a turn tweak in the Spring & Fall. My painted necks are all pretty stable, and I think I've only ever messed with any of them at initial setup or when I've changed tunings/gauges. We let the house get up to around 79 in the Summer and down to around 65 in the Winter to keep from paying through the nose. If we kept it more stable, I might never need to adjust at all.

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                  • #10
                    I think it has a lot to do with the "hanging" part. that weight of the body keeps the neck in check. my sl2ht was in its case for more than 6 months and when i took it out, it was horribly out of tune. my other cheapo hanging bolt on jacksons almost never go out of tune. I rarely ever tune before playing.
                    Sam

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by emperor_black View Post
                      I think it has a lot to do with the "hanging" part. that weight of the body keeps the neck in check. my sl2ht was in its case for more than 6 months and when i took it out, it was horribly out of tune. my other cheapo hanging bolt on jacksons almost never go out of tune. I rarely ever tune before playing.
                      That's something I never even considered.
                      Yes, it is on a string swing, hanging.

                      I refuse to use stands when I have a choice.

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                      • #12
                        i find mahogany and guitars with vintage type truss rods seem to move more. most of mine rarely need a little tweaking.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by j2379 View Post
                          i find mahogany and guitars with vintage type truss rods seem to move more. most of mine rarely need a little tweaking.
                          One of my mahogany's-Hamer Phantom A5, used to be the "wall queen". That is one that mystified me first, it never needed adjusting.
                          In 15 some years, I don't even know what the truss config is because I have never adjusted it.

                          It's an '83 (I think).
                          Set neck, it is a very solid setup.

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                          • #14
                            Three of my oiled neck guitars hang, and they all move a little. I think your combo of painted necks, medium action, and lack of pickiness are the answer here, Cyg.

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                            • #15
                              I used to leave a 'quick access' guitar hanging in my garage as well, the reason I stopped doing it was because of gunk buildup on the frets(I can't stand soiled frets). I've noticed this on 2 guitars(Ibanez 1540fb and Jackson slsmg). So now if I'm not playing or returning very shortly to play, they go back into the cases.

                              I don't know if it has to do with the types of fretwire? I'm pretty sure this wouldn't happen with stainless steel fretwire, but that's also assuming that 'nickle/silver' was on the other guitars?!

                              As far as adjusting the truss, never been a big issue for me. I keep my action pretty low on most of my guitars, and have yet to see(apart from initial set ups) much of a reason to have to adjust!

                              Most of my guitars have painted necks, and are neck thru. However the few bolt ons I do have are mostly oiled ~ no big difference in stability.

                              I do agree that even with most of the budget guitars that are mass produced nowadays that machining tolerances are much better than that of 10-15 years ago and perhaps that might come into play more on 'vintage' instruments that have much more 'human' tolerances?
                              Enjoying a rum and coke, just didn't have any coke...

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