Seymour Duncan Liberator

[Grandturk]

I have to dig up the picture I have from deployment with me at a range on a leopard print Liberator shooting an M14.

That sounds like something you'd see in the back of Soldier of Fortune - DVDs of hot chicks ripping clips on top of animal print Liberators!

[Newc]

People will always cry that snap-together connectors are not as good as hardwired, and that's ok, because they invariably also relate two different animals i.e. the boat trailer vs a guitar.

Would you tell me how much boat-trailer-style jostling a guitar is going to receive? No, you won't, because you can't, because it doesn't happen unless it's being smashed on stage, at which point the wire connections are not a concern.

And this type of connector system for guitars certainly isn't all that new, however it's never been mass-produced by a name-brand guitar-related-accessory manufacturer.

[Grandturk]

I don't have a problem with the solderless connectors at all. I actually think its cool - not for me - but for others who have the need.

What I laugh about is the fact that the marketing gurus at Seymour Duncan didn't bother to look up the product name "Liberator" before they chose it for their new product. The fact that you type Liberator in on google and get spammed with ads for sex pillows is hysterical to me.

[tonemonster]

I like the soldier of fortune thing.

Newcer, calm down dude, I was just using my boat trailer as an example. while I see your point about jostling around, I just dont like and dont trust non soldered connections. Its just my thang. I realize they use them in many applications. The only time I have ever seen them work well on anything guitar related is George L's cables. as I said, I hope I am wrong on this duncan device and they work great.


BTW, for the record, the girlfriend and I have a liberator sex pillow. I highly recommend them.

[Grandturk]

BTW, for the record, the girlfriend and I have a liberator sex pillow. I highly recommend them.

Pics!



Just kidding...

nah...

Pics!!!

[RobRR]

Call me oldschool, but I prefer solder. There is no guess work, not wondering if somethings going to rattle lose. If youre good with a soldering iron, your solder joins will outlast the guitar, and you for that matter. Besides, I can probably fully rewire a guitar in the time it takes someone to install one of those kits.

[Hellbat]

Even though I linked this I am in the "I do it with Solder" camp. Actually the solder and heatshrink tubing camp. I actually take pride in my electronics work, it's something I've been doing for over 30 years.

But it does open up changing out pickups for people who don't know what end of a soldering iron to hold or what those little + and GND on the diagrams mean.

[dg]

I won't be using this either, but I think it's cool because there are a lot of people who are scared off by soldering, and now they can do some experimenting without having to go to a tech (once they have this installed, anyway). Should be a good move for Duncan.

[tonemonster]

Call me oldschool, but I prefer solder. There is no guess work, not wondering if somethings going to rattle lose. If youre good with a soldering iron, your solder joins will outlast the guitar, and you for that matter. Besides, I can probably fully rewire a guitar in the time it takes someone to install one of those kits.

same here. If there is one thing that pisses me off, its loose electical shit & bad connections. I am the type of guy that sands, brushes, or cleans eletrical connections and puts a light coat of dielectric grease on it when it comes to mechanical connections. (battery terminals, etc)

a few weeks ago a guitar buddy of mine was over and I replaced the custom 5 in my CS soloist with a JB and he has alot of experience with electronics, about 30 yrs worth, and he was impressed at how fast I could change a pickup, especially in a floyded guitar. Its not nearly as big of a deal as most people think it is. but I go agree with others here, for some folks that are scared off by solder, this will be a cool thing. its not for me, but it is good for others.

[RobRR]

Yeah man, a pickup change is about a 5 minute ordeal on a Floyded guitar. A few mins longer on a string thru, but with that new handy dandy electric string winder, it makes it even easier!

[tonemonster]

Pics!



Just kidding...

nah...

Pics!!!

I will not do pics. the whole internet dont need to see my small penus.

[jdr94]

screw that. so if the pot goes bad, then what? i mean you could go to radio shack and buy one of these http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103983 for less than 3 bucks and basically do the same thing and still be able to change pots for active/passive changes right? you'd still have to solder the 3 tabs on the pot for that particular swap but still it be about the same. i too like to solder so maybe i'm bias. the emg solderless setup is different cause emgs have quick connect cables where you just plug and go, but if you're gonna have to screw this and that i'd just go with radio shack parts.....if i wanted a set up like the liberator. its a good idea for people who cant solder tho. i guess.

[Shawn Lutz]

There is no issuses with this tupe of connections for pickups. Solder isn't any better or worse. I'm a broadcast engineering / ops manager and been using treminal connections for years for audio connections on broadcast gear for years and years. I like the idea for quick changing. I hate soldering although it's easy it's not as easy or neat as this.

[jdr94]

but the pot thing is what bothers me. a separate block would seem to make more sense. connections like this dont normally go bad, but pots do. no one wants to buy a $25-$35 vol knob when it goes bad. maybe a block that snaps onto the vol pot tabs? idk. maybe its just me. to me solder is actually a less definite connection than the screw block. just dont understand why it has to be connected to the pot. maybe to avoid possible patent issues w EMG.

[Twitch]

screw that. so if the pot goes bad, then what? i mean you could go to radio shack and buy one of these http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103983 for less than 3 bucks and basically do the same thing and still be able to change pots for active/passive changes right? you'd still have to solder the 3 tabs on the pot for that particular swap but still it be about the same. i too like to solder so maybe i'm bias. the emg solderless setup is different cause emgs have quick connect cables where you just plug and go, but if you're gonna have to screw this and that i'd just go with radio shack parts.....if i wanted a set up like the liberator. its a good idea for people who cant solder tho. i guess.

I see your point. I solder and am pretty handy at it, but for tone nuts like myself, constantly changing pickups, terminal strips would be the mutts nuts for experimentation. Then, once youve found the P/U that best suits both you and the guitar, take the terminal strip apparatus out and start soldering. Now, if they only made it to where you didnt have to completely remove the strings or the FR assembly to pull the P/U out without scratching your guitar.