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  • #46


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    • #47
      I really think and this is my opinion.

      As its stating the obvious, such an incident will get much media attention globally.
      But really, who cares if his burial at sea offends muslim beliefs or not taking muslim beliefs into consideration and so and so forth?

      Again stating the obvious, they (muslim attack on 911) didn't care about American beliefs nor what we thought the standard protocol of how an American should die.
      So no, don't throw the whole "value a human life" scenario or equation card out.
      Again stating the obvious, there is legit video and documentation when 911 happened - bin laden praised that it happened.

      What goes around comes around.
      Those who live by the sword die by the sword.
      You get what you ask for and ask for what you get.
      He had it coming.

      Were not talking about billy who had a really bad day and went postal, bin laden is a world known top wanted terrorist.
      Don't be confused, if America didn't get him somebody or some other nation would have.
      He was a dead man walking.

      Rumors of two gun shots to the head?
      Not sure why this is an issue or concern in question.
      He didn't comply, he didn't surrender - this is when common sense steps in - thus he got shot and received deadly wounds to the head.

      Who cares? He's dead.
      His death isn't worth much of my time and this is all the time I'm gonna give it.

      All these spineless tree huggers need to find another playground to play in.
      Last edited by Soap; 05-02-2011, 03:56 PM.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by StukaJU87 View Post
        I agree, Joe. On the news this afternoon they reported that a burial service was held on the ship with a muslim US Navy crew member reciting the prayers to ensure that Bin Laden was sent off "properly". What the fuck is that all about?
        It's because even though they managed to kill the most wanted terrorist in the world, they decided to avoid offending the Islamic world by parading his corpse around and gloating over it and instead decided to give him a 'proper' burial in order to show respect for the muslim faith. It's called PR dudes, simple as that. Smart move, unlike when Saddam was captured and they released rather humiliating footage of him getting his teeth checked by a doctor with a popsicle stick and latex gloves as if he was a horse getting its teeth inspected by a vet.

        Point is, the US administration showed that it was civilised and noble by dealing with the matter quickly and efficiently and announcing it in a very concise and straightforward manner rather than gloating over it like a bunch of dicks.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by DRM View Post
          It all looked the same when I was there.

          *EDIT: And on a side note...we didn't just chase him around Pakistan. There's a good period of time he could have been back in his homeland of Saudi Arabia. I don't know, but given the non-existant borders between countries over there, there's no telling how long we've been close to him or how far we've had to go to make it happen.
          Yeah... Don't take this the wrong way or anything but it's probably dudes like you that make people outside the US hate 'Muricans so much.


          It's all about the blues-rock chatter.

          Originally posted by RD
          ...so now I have this massive empty house with my Harley, Guns, Guitar and nothing else...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Soap View Post
            Again stating the obvious, they (muslim attack on 911) didn't care about American beliefs nor what we thought the standard protocol of how an American should die.

            I'm no religious expert but I don't think you can pin 9/11 on all the Muslims. Many Muslims were killed in the WTC attacks.

            Personally, I agree, for all the innocent people he had a hand in murdering before, on and after 9/11, he didn't deserve to be honored with his faith's own rituals of death, but I'm sure a lot of people smarter than me on foreign policy thought it was the way to go.

            Not sure how your corpse getting nibbled on by Nemo and Spongebob Squarepants really fits with the Muslim tradition either, but what can you do.
            Last edited by Larz; 05-02-2011, 04:31 PM.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Devotee View Post
              Yeah... Don't take this the wrong way or anything but it's probably dudes like you that make people outside the US hate 'Muricans so much.
              No, but it's people like him that went to Afghanistan to keep Al Queda from gaining a foothold. People like him that allow Afghan men and women to attend schools without the threat of their family being killed, because some guy is saying everything they need to know is written in the Koran. People like him that carved a safe area out and trained the Afghan people to protect and police themselves.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Rich#6 View Post
                http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...iref=allsearch
                How did he go from the US training him to fight the Russians in Afganistan to him going home after that war was over and working for his family to hating Americans? look at the 1990 date. Yes he was a nut, but we set him off.
                It was the time with drastic changes in the muslim world... for the worse.. but disrespecting their religion is only a minor reason. Islam was going downhill until recent times. The rise of new extremism has a lot more to do with socio-political issues and the fact that the West keeps sticking his nose into their business. After most of the stupid European colonialism started to vanish in the area it was extremely stupid to start agitating them again.
                The west encouraged terrorism against Soviet Union and then started dealing with their internal conflicts.
                Let's see what we have here now. In Russian border provinces "terrorism" pretty much happens daily. Some people have only seen death and destruction since they were born. They don't know nothing other than hate. Russia has huge amounts of muslims and a lot of corruption making it easy to get funds for weapons. But most people don't have a clue about it nor care because it's not happening in Moscow or Sankt-Peterburg.
                Most of the time they are fighting against each other. Russia of course is bordering the Middle-East and Central-Asia, making all the clans highly aware and involved.
                They are so dense that anything will piss them off more and more. Russia having a right-wing semi-fascist leaders who have no problem that the country has the biggest amount of skinheads in the world who parade constantly and beat the shit out of immigrants makes things worse. But not as much as western countries coming far away to stick their noses into business not their own. This stupid crap goes on and on. Now this shit with Libya, it would not be surprising if bombs go off in Paris and London. Fucking dipshit politicians enjoy their games while we who have to work and and travel constantly from one metropolis to another, can be blown up because of it. Fucking brilliant innit!!!!
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Hellbat View Post
                  No, but it's people like him that went to Afghanistan to keep Al Queda from gaining a foothold. People like him that allow Afghan men and women to attend schools without the threat of their family being killed, because some guy is saying everything they need to know is written in the Koran. People like him that carved a safe area out and trained the Afghan people to protect and police themselves.
                  That goes without saying. My point was that the level of ignorance should never exceed the level of bravery.
                  It's all about the blues-rock chatter.

                  Originally posted by RD
                  ...so now I have this massive empty house with my Harley, Guns, Guitar and nothing else...

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Devotee View Post
                    Yeah... Don't take this the wrong way or anything but it's probably dudes like you that make people outside the US hate 'Muricans so much.
                    The Afghans loved me and my unit. That's all I care about.

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                    • #55
                      Also, Devotee, you don't know anything at all about guys like me.

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                      • #56
                        ....it's Bush's fault!


                        Great news!!

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                        Last edited by horns666; 05-02-2011, 05:15 PM.
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                        • #57
                          Amen. Hellbat, well said.

                          And Larz, I agree. I'm glad someone finally said that. I worked (here in the USA) for a Muslim employer in 2001 when the September 11 attacks happened. He was heartbroken and let everyone have a few days off to recover. He lost family and friends in those attacks, just as many of us did. The muslims don't hate Americans. Al Qaeda hates us, and that was fueled by the ravings of a demented man. Many muslims believed every word he said, and finally those hateful words have been silenced.

                          I have much respect for muslims, and it's good that we honored their faith with a proper burial. We are allowed proper burials for our fallen troops, even though they are hated by many over there. It's just the right thing to do. We were not respecting bin Laden himself, we were respecting the greater peoples there who are just trying to live their lives amid the chaos and war...
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Hellbat View Post
                            No, but it's people like him that went to Afghanistan to keep Al Queda from gaining a foothold. People like him that allow Afghan men and women to attend schools without the threat of their family being killed, because some guy is saying everything they need to know is written in the Koran. People like him that carved a safe area out and trained the Afghan people to protect and police themselves.
                            exactly!!!
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by horns666 View Post
                              ....it's Bush's fault!

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                              • #60
                                Those videos are priceless!!
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